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Himmler

Himmler

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I also want to mention a very difficult subject before you here, completely openly. It should be discussed amongst us, and yet, nevertheless, we will never speak about it in public. I am talking about the Jewish evacuation: the extermination of the Jewish people. It is one of those things that is easily said. "The Jewish people are being exterminated," every Party member will tell you: "Perfectly clear, it’s part of our plans, we’re eliminating the Jews, exterminating them, ha!, a small matter. ” —Heinrich Himmler, 4 October 1943

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  • Ardee (Thu 28 Aug 2008 05:17:33 PM EDT)

    Oh my. Did Stevey actually post a photo and give someone else the credit?!? Who would have thunk such a thing?

  • flamethrowerguy (Thu 28 Aug 2008 04:49:07 PM EDT)
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    I didn't misunderstand your comment as a correction to my post. I think we could fill a whole page here with examples of the persecution od jews throughout history of mankind, so I just limited myself to the medieval. This deicide thing is real, it...

    I didn't misunderstand your comment as a correction to my post. I think we could fill a whole page here with examples of the persecution od jews throughout history of mankind, so I just limited myself to the medieval. This deicide thing is real, it started in the 2nd century when christians started to give the collective guilt for the death of Jesus of Nazareth.

  • Krad42 (Thu 28 Aug 2008 04:38:49 PM EDT)
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    Now you made me smile, Flame. Actually, that "the Jews killed Jesus" theory didn't enter my mind. Of course, having been educated in a Catholic school, I'm well acquainted with it. History, however, seems to note that Jews were persecuted even before...

    Now you made me smile, Flame. Actually, that "the Jews killed Jesus" theory didn't enter my mind. Of course, having been educated in a Catholic school, I'm well acquainted with it. History, however, seems to note that Jews were persecuted even before Jesus' demise. So, I've never given that theory much deliberation. My point wasn't to correct you, but to point out that the persecution of Jews has been wide spread through different ages in history and anti-Semitism was also wide spread among the so-called liberators after WW2. As a Jewish observer put it, "Eighteen months after liberation...the war is not yet over for European Jewry. They are impossible to repatriate and almost as difficult to resettle. No one wants them now just as no one wanted them before or during the war."

  • flamethrowerguy (Thu 28 Aug 2008 02:56:17 PM EDT)

    Of course you're right, I just didn't want to go back that far in time. And I didn't want to annoy and bore anyone with the not so uncommon "the-jews-killed-Jesus-Christ-therefore-they-will-suffer-eternally"-theory.

  • Krad42 (Thu 28 Aug 2008 11:28:02 AM EDT)
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    Persecution of Jewish people actually go far beyond medieval times. The Romans persecuted them, killing hundreds of thousands, especially during the reign of Emperor Hadrian, although they were persecuted under the reign of other emperors as well. The...

    Persecution of Jewish people actually go far beyond medieval times. The Romans persecuted them, killing hundreds of thousands, especially during the reign of Emperor Hadrian, although they were persecuted under the reign of other emperors as well. The Egyptians didn't have much liking for them either. I think that Hitler's position on Jews is rather complexed and has multiple reasons. There was, of course, plain racism. However, if one really looks at it in an unbiased manner, Jewish communities tend to be very strong. They tend to be very united in tradition and they also tend to become politically and financially powerful. None of those things would go well with a doctrine that is based on Aryan supremacy and the innate right of the Aryan people to own Germany's assets. And, even though the extermination of Jews by the Third Reich is an undeniable historical fact, it is also a fact that other countries weren't jumping at the chance to help them out...not even after the war. This is why so many spent a long time in camps after the war. That's just a little part of history that nobody likes to speak about.

  • ptimms (Thu 28 Aug 2008 08:44:07 AM EDT)
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    So Stevey you uploaded a picture of the traitor who secretly tried to negotiate with the Allies to save his own worthless skin, was stripped of his post by Hitler and was without doubt the worst military commander Army Group Center ever had. Where...

    So Stevey you uploaded a picture of the traitor who secretly tried to negotiate with the Allies to save his own worthless skin, was stripped of his post by Hitler and was without doubt the worst military commander Army Group Center ever had. Where amongst the pantheon of Nazi heroes would you rate him ??

  • flamethrowerguy (Thu 28 Aug 2008 06:59:11 AM EDT)
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    ...but that's an interesting issue, Dave. I was wondering just yesterday why Hitlers hate focused on the Jews of all things. On the other hand persecution of Jews has a long history back to the medieval times. Just mentioning when the Jews were made...

    ...but that's an interesting issue, Dave. I was wondering just yesterday why Hitlers hate focused on the Jews of all things. On the other hand persecution of Jews has a long history back to the medieval times. Just mentioning when the Jews were made responsible for the outbreak of the pestilence from 1348-51 and that meant southern europe as well and even the Ottoman Empire . Or in Bohemia back in 1161, the alleged poisoning of wells by the Jews.

  • stevey14/8 (Thu 28 Aug 2008 06:39:09 AM EDT)

    thats because i uploaded it he he

  • flamethrowerguy (Thu 28 Aug 2008 05:48:00 AM EDT)

    Dave, it wasn't me who uploaded the photo.

  • Jazzman (Thu 28 Aug 2008 01:25:55 AM EDT)
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    Dave, if I may jump in here, I think Hitler really did have a hatred for the Jews, but there was a large political component to this also. He needed a scapegoat to rally the German people after WWI and the truly horrific depression that followed. It was...

    Dave, if I may jump in here, I think Hitler really did have a hatred for the Jews, but there was a large political component to this also. He needed a scapegoat to rally the German people after WWI and the truly horrific depression that followed. It was the evil Jew bankers and businessmen who were holding back the German people by controlling all the money ect. you see. Himmler,Heydrich, Streicher,and Eichman et al were true believers who really thought that the Jews, Slavs, Gypsies and Russians were sub-human vermin who were corrupting the human gene pool and considered it their holy duty to exterminate from the face of the earth. I don't know how much of this Hitler personally bought into, but he did sign the orders.

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