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woj
09-01-2010, 08:26 AM
Obviously was not much difficult ;-)
Well done, correct!

Damazy
09-01-2010, 12:17 PM
Hello, Lads.

Here you are:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1609/zagadkacw.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/zagadkacw.jpg/)

Regards,
Damazy.

woj
09-02-2010, 04:00 AM
Hi,
Iīve never seen this photo...
But I suppose, it could be an US T2 Combat Car - the prototype of the wheel-and-track light tank.
Here the rear view - ready to go as a car.
Planned and built by Rock Island Arsenal in 1931.

tankgeezer
09-02-2010, 11:19 AM
Dunno why, but the vehicle in the pic has a very different suspension from the T-2 pics I've seen. Could be that its a slightly later version.

Damazy
09-03-2010, 04:54 AM
Front view:

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/289/zagadkal.jpg (http://img836.imageshack.us/i/zagadkal.jpg/)
[sorry for bad quality - can't do anything about it]

Hint: soviet stuff.

jungleguerilla
09-03-2010, 05:18 AM
Front view:


[sorry for bad quality - can't do anything about it]

Hint: soviet stuff.

I say it's a Soviet T-19 Medium Tank. It's a pre-war Soviet Tank and was so inconsistent.

Uyraell
09-04-2010, 06:40 AM
I'm thinking T37 light amphibious tank, second prototype.
However, I have no reliable illustrations from which to draw conclusions.

Kind Regards my friends, Uyraell.

woj
09-04-2010, 07:55 AM
It cannot be T-19 medium tank or T-37 light amphibious tank because of the suspension.
We have here for sure the wheel and track tank, perhabs an experimental vehicle and the very first prototype of the BT series.
Its suspension is very similar to T2 Combat Car and could be the copy of the US solution.
But... I donīt know his name :(

tankgeezer
09-04-2010, 11:03 AM
Walter Christie.

Damazy
09-05-2010, 10:12 AM
Another hint: It was a swimming tank.

tom!
09-08-2010, 08:12 AM
Hm, I have no ideas.

So letīs try the conventional way:

Is it european?

Damazy
09-09-2010, 11:05 PM
Hi, tom!.

I have already told you even more :)

It's soviet light, swimming tank...

...made in Factory No 185.

Regards,
Damazy

woj
09-10-2010, 02:33 AM
Right, but it helps us not at all. :neutral:
I can find nothing about such vehicle in net. :shock:

leccy
09-10-2010, 02:43 AM
I can not find a picture but found this reference to a vehicle that may fit the description

In 1934, OKMO designed the T-43-2, a design for an amphibious tank with convertible drive—being able to run on tracks or wheels—as a possible replacement for the T-37 amphibious scout tank. It, and Moscow Factory no. 37's competing T-43-1 were both rejected in favour of continuing T-37 production.

Damazy
09-10-2010, 07:44 AM
I can not find a picture but found this reference to a vehicle that may fit the description

In 1934, OKMO designed the T-43-2, a design for an amphibious tank with convertible drive—being able to run on tracks or wheels—as a possible replacement for the T-37 amphibious scout tank. It, and Moscow Factory no. 37's competing T-43-1 were both rejected in favour of continuing T-37 production.

Brilliant!

There were two designs of the T-43. made by competing Factories No.37 and No.185.

This is the other prototype prepared by Factory No.37:

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6204/t43factoryno37.png (http://img826.imageshack.us/i/t43factoryno37.png/)


Anyway nice to meet you leccy. Stage is yours, well done.

Regards,
Damazyl

leccy
09-11-2010, 07:17 AM
First time I tried to answer one after following this thread for a couple of years.

4821

Possibly too easy, be gentle

ced381
09-11-2010, 10:59 PM
Is it Russian? or American..?

The suspension looks like the BT-2's...
http://www.morozov.com.ua/images/p60-1l.jpg

...but the rear looks more like the T-28's...
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~ejuhola/7.62/t28_5.jpg

I'm confused...

Damazy
09-12-2010, 12:27 AM
Hi, guys.

Looks like soviet medium tank T-29.

T-28 on Christie's suspension.

Regards,
Damazy

ced381
09-12-2010, 08:28 AM
I think you're right my friend!

http://tankdrawingsdownload.com/t_29_drawings.gif

tankgeezer
09-12-2010, 12:46 PM
Didn't Christie's design use a "dead track" that is a track that is not under tension, and uses no support rollers (the small wheels above the road wheels)

ced381
09-12-2010, 01:02 PM
I don't think that using support rollers would make Christie's design less effective.

tankgeezer
09-12-2010, 02:33 PM
Could be, but did any of his actual designs use support rollers, or is the pictured vehicle a derivative of Christie's design. I'm just curious is all.

ced381
09-12-2010, 03:49 PM
Me too, I'm very interested in that tank.

leccy
09-12-2010, 05:14 PM
Your right it is a T29 I was wondering if you could get the particular model

4829

4830

Maybe a little more help the one I posted is the bottom one.

Damazy
09-13-2010, 09:51 AM
Think, it should be the T-29-4.

leccy
09-13-2010, 11:18 AM
According the the Czech and Russian sites (all hail google translater) the model I posted was the later T29-5 distinguished by the frame aerial being mounted at the rear around the engine decks as opposed to on the turret as in the T29-4.

My info may be a little wrong as I have relied on a translater and my understanding of the results from 2 sites.

The T-29 was a development on the T28 with Christie running gear with the intention of it replacing the T28. It could run on tracks or road wheels like the original Christie designs. It lost the contest to the T34 though and only 4 prototypes were built.

The T29-5 was the closest to being the final model and was heavier than the T29-4.

No known examples survive and the fate of the four prototypes is not known (suggestions and rumours they were used as targets or lost in combat with the German forces)

Damazy
09-13-2010, 09:57 PM
Hi,

Dunno all websites but accordig to the russian books it's T-29-4.

In my opinion one of the best possible sources: Отечественные бронированные машины 1905-1941, Moskva 2002, please read pages 136-137. Don't need to know russian to check it ;)

Regards,
Damazy

leccy
09-14-2010, 02:27 PM
Either are close enough for war work so the honour heads your way Damazy.

I am still wondering about the slack tracks and top rollers on the different models though. Should never have gotten rid of all my reference books. No need to search loads of references and trust online translaters then.

Damazy
09-18-2010, 12:14 PM
New stuff for you, guys :

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4244/zagadkaq.jpg (http://img529.imageshack.us/i/zagadkaq.jpg/)

Regards,
Damazy

leccy
09-18-2010, 02:08 PM
Its one of the T20 prototype tanks from the US, I believe the T23 version with electric drive.

Damazy
09-19-2010, 11:03 PM
Hi,

Actually, it is first pilot model medium tank T22, but it's close enough for me to say: well done.

Your turn leccy, my friend.

Regards,
Damazy

leccy
09-20-2010, 01:53 PM
Go for a wheeled one this time.

4861

woj
09-21-2010, 01:20 AM
looks like French armoured car Berliet VUDB

leccy
09-21-2010, 01:25 PM
It is indeed,

4864

woj
09-22-2010, 04:52 AM
OK, what about this one?

http://belllaitalia.blox.pl/resource/z30.jpg

leccy
09-22-2010, 01:26 PM
Skoda T32 assault gun, exported to Yugoslavia with German designation of PzKpfW 32 (j).

Skoda T32 (http://stef124.tripod.com/skodat32.htm)

4865

woj
09-22-2010, 03:45 PM
Yes leccy, correct :) The original factory name was Skoda S-I-D
Your turn mate.

ced381
09-23-2010, 04:11 PM
Go for a wheeled one this time.

4861

Latest Taliban APC.

leccy
09-23-2010, 04:50 PM
Getting the hang of this now

48724873

woj
09-24-2010, 02:03 AM
Belgian Vickers Carden-Loyd Mk.VI SPG

leccy
09-25-2010, 04:22 AM
Yes with a different way of doing the front shield

'lift up and over for driving and lower to the front over the gun barrel for action'

woj
09-27-2010, 03:12 AM
here you are:

http://belllaitalia.blox.pl/resource/z113.jpg

leccy
09-28-2010, 02:19 AM
It looks like a Vickers light tank Model 1937, some parts look a teeny bit different though??

woj
09-28-2010, 01:17 PM
The suspension may looks like the Vickers built, but itīs not the British construction ;)

Damazy
10-11-2010, 07:03 AM
Hello Lads.

Looks like soviet small tank [малый танк] T-34.

Regards,
Damazy

leccy
10-11-2010, 10:57 AM
Ah found the pic on here, no wonder it was so difficult would never have thought of it as a T34 albeit from 1931 and the references to it were a 5000 book print and 2000 book print.

T34 Light Tank Wiki RU (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2-34_(%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%82%D0%B0%D0 %BD%D0%BA))

woj
10-11-2010, 11:45 AM
Yes Damazy, brilliant!
Your turn.

Damazy
10-11-2010, 10:24 PM
All right.

Here we go:

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3408/zagadkakq.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/zagadkakq.jpg/)

Regards,
Damazy

woj
10-12-2010, 04:21 AM
The rear view of French light tank Renault AMC 35, also named ACG 1.

Damazy
10-12-2010, 07:14 AM
Can't stop you. :D

This is an excellent answer. Actually this is one of the belgian tanks ACG1.

Your turn, mate.

Regards,
Damazy

woj
10-19-2010, 06:15 AM
Sorry guys for the long waiting.

Of course you can stop me, Damazy, you did it allready ;)

And from me such vehicle:

http://belllaitalia.blox.pl/resource/z116.jpg

leccy
10-19-2010, 02:15 PM
I believe it is the Italian CV33 Carro Gettaponte Bridgelayer

4895 4896

woj
10-19-2010, 03:27 PM
leccy, youīre right! Brilliant :)
The stage is yours

leccy
10-29-2010, 05:28 PM
Sorry for the delay been a tadge busy here.

4912

leccy
11-08-2010, 06:07 PM
Maybe a tadge awkward so a frontal view

4952

The Fiendish Red Baron
11-09-2010, 03:46 AM
Thats the 152mm armed SU-14/2, I believe.

http://www.kubinka.ru/NEW_IMAGES/exposition/1/Su-14-2.jpg

leccy
11-09-2010, 01:48 PM
Aye that will be the beasty Red Baron (one pic is the SU 14/2 the other the SU 14/3 so SU 14 does nicley)

Ronnyguitar
02-02-2011, 05:05 AM
well since no one is answering, i'll try to reinact this thread if it's ok ?

here's the (little) tank :

http://cdn.wn.com/pd/c7/72/b34bf97a6e5e8a2b79fba1c72a9d_grande.jpg

good luck!!

flamethrowerguy
02-02-2011, 02:29 PM
Polish TKS tankette.

Churchill
02-02-2011, 02:35 PM
/want...

woj
02-03-2011, 02:16 AM
Correct :D
This copy, armed with 7,92 mm Hotchkiss machine gun, was reconstructed in 2008 by URSUS Manufacturing.

Ronnyguitar
02-03-2011, 02:26 AM
Polish TKS tankette.

absolutely correct ! your turn !!

flamethrowerguy
02-08-2011, 04:04 PM
Sorry for the delay:

5221

woj
02-09-2011, 02:20 AM
This is M22 Locust Light Tank

flamethrowerguy
02-09-2011, 06:58 AM
It is.
Your turn.

woj
02-10-2011, 07:55 AM
Well, guess this one:

http://belllaitalia.blox.pl/resource/z29.jpg

tom!
02-12-2011, 05:27 AM
Hi.

The turret looks french to me...

Yours

tom! ;)

woj
02-12-2011, 06:05 AM
Hi Tom,

Indeed, itīs the French construction ;)

regards
woj

gumalangi
02-13-2011, 04:25 AM
Batignolles-Chatillon

http://en.valka.cz/files/thumbs/t_b-c_001.jpg

front side :D

woj
02-13-2011, 06:51 AM
Well done, gumalangi :)

The stage is yours

gumalangi
02-13-2011, 09:36 PM
thanks,.

should be easy to crack :D

http://images.rcuniverse.com/forum/upfiles/402824/Yw68029.jpg

woj
02-14-2011, 02:42 AM
was very easy :)
British infantry tank - Matilda Mk. I (A11)

gumalangi
02-14-2011, 05:32 AM
thats correct,.. :D

have your turn ;)

woj
02-14-2011, 05:41 AM
Here it is. The new stuff for you, guys ;)

http://belllaitalia.blox.pl/resource/z46.jpg

gumalangi
02-14-2011, 05:52 AM
M-15 AA tank,. the tracks,. oh so italian :D :D

woj
02-14-2011, 06:13 AM
correct (M15/42 AA tank)
very fast answer, mate, your turn :D

gumalangi
02-14-2011, 06:21 AM
Cheers,. :D

try this one ;)

leccy
02-14-2011, 06:36 AM
First thought was a Czech LT38 but the turret rear looked wrong 'not enough depth over the engine decks.
So with that in mind going for the slightly smaller LT40

tom!
02-14-2011, 11:33 AM
Hi

Rear driving wheel....

czech CKD LTL tank?

Yours

tom! ;)

gumalangi
02-14-2011, 06:09 PM
Tom! :D
Your eyes dont miss the details,. however it is a Latvian,. CKD LTL purchased by Slovakian Army,. only 21 were built :D

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/latvia/LTL.jpg

have your turn :D cheers

tom!
02-15-2011, 11:40 AM
Hi.

Thanks.

Ok, letīs try this one:

gumalangi
02-15-2011, 05:48 PM
Type 5 Na-To

Another view :D
http://images.kitlink.com/Products/images/Katana/KA35C16.JPG

tom!
02-17-2011, 10:41 AM
Yes, Your turn.

gumalangi
02-17-2011, 09:06 PM
Try this one :D

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Bodston/BSC00894-1.jpg

leccy
02-18-2011, 04:17 AM
Guy Quad Ant 4x4 Artillary Tractor with 25 pdr and limber

Slightly different pic in German service
5232

gumalangi
02-18-2011, 06:30 PM
Next turn is yours Leccy ;)

Seriously, how do you figure it out?:confused:
and not trapped with Morris Quad
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRA7kqOLHcYTQqAOWfn7RfqzSd--78BMQcw32OidMIYPs6SR8Ieqw
nor CMP FAT?
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSjLoIJeytToUFJZlPQd3xwi9LOCVJQw Jm_EvFw-zio_tT2GYpv

Cheers
G

leccy
02-18-2011, 07:52 PM
The shape of the top of the bonnet gives it away. The Morris has a more rounded one.

leccy
02-18-2011, 08:07 PM
Ok try this one

5233

gumalangi
02-18-2011, 08:54 PM
thats a scottish unit, for now :D

gumalangi
02-20-2011, 05:55 PM
well the pic sure not easy to solve,. a clue or two please,. other than the unit :D :D

leccy
02-20-2011, 06:17 PM
Its a British desperate measure from 1940 and had a rather grandiose name considering what it was.
Its main armament was a Boyes AT rifle which may give a clue to its name and role.

gumalangi
02-20-2011, 07:39 PM
its a lorry 30cwt :D

woj
02-21-2011, 03:28 AM
Bedford OXA - british improvised heavy armoured car, used untill 1942 by the Home Guard.

leccy
02-21-2011, 04:23 AM
Yes the Bedford OXA also known by the official designation of
Truck 30cwt, Anti Tank

Rather a desperate vehicle to hunt tanks with especially armed with just a Boyes AT Rifle. It was a case of what can we make with what we have.

Similar to the Armadillo but built using steel instead of wood sheets and gravel infill or concrete like the Bison.

gumalangi
02-21-2011, 05:02 AM
so between me and woj,. who's the lucky guy? ;)

leccy
02-21-2011, 05:50 PM
Well technically I suppose woj as he got the actual vehicle make and model. A lorry 30cwt without further designation could be one of many different types.

woj
02-22-2011, 03:30 AM
Ok, letīs try this one :cool:

http://belllaitalia.blox.pl/resource/z31.jpg


PS: did you modify your post, gumalangi ? I was pretty sure, I saw other message... ;)

tom!
02-26-2011, 09:10 AM
Hi.

Looks like a hungarian Turan I or II without main armament...


Yours

tom! ;)

woj
02-26-2011, 12:00 PM
Hi Tom,

Iīm glad with your answer! Itīs truly a wrecked Hungarian M41 Turan II tank without its barrel.
Youīre the next one :D

Regards
woj

Churchill
02-26-2011, 03:03 PM
Gah, I need to get back in the game here...

tom!
02-27-2011, 04:13 AM
Thanks.

What about this one:

woj
02-27-2011, 06:26 AM
Hmmm... this turtled armour... ;) it could be only one, built during the ww2 -> the Swiss Nahkampfkanone II Gustav - self propelled gun.

Ronnyguitar
03-10-2011, 02:06 AM
thats a funny one ! is it the backside ?? cause i can't see the gun...........

woj
03-13-2011, 05:48 AM
and here it is the frontside...

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/switzerland/Nahkampf-kanon%20NKII.jpg

gumalangi
03-13-2011, 07:09 AM
Nahkampfkanone II "Gustav" SPG :D

woj
03-13-2011, 07:19 AM
of course gumalangi, but it was not a new quiz stuff ;)

gumalangi
03-13-2011, 06:54 PM
What exactly is this? :) :)

woj
03-14-2011, 06:53 AM
Hi gumalangi,
Hmmm... actually we are still waiting for the attestation of Tom!īs quiz question, because it was his one ;)

But... the tank, we are looking for, is the Swedish light tank Stridswagn m/21-29, which was a modernised version of the British Whippet Light Tank.

Regards
woj

gumalangi
03-14-2011, 10:17 AM
:oops::oops::oops:
sorry,. really really sorry

woj
03-14-2011, 10:47 AM
nothing happened mate :)
was my answer correct?
Tom! hasnīt been here for some weeks so let us guess the new stuff:

http://belllaitalia.blox.pl/resource/z85.jpg

gumalangi
03-14-2011, 06:17 PM
T 60 ?


:)

tankgeezer
03-14-2011, 07:06 PM
Looks Soviet, it has that little plumbob type gun port of the turret side,(at the cross) Germany didnt use those did they?

gumalangi
03-14-2011, 08:12 PM
Looks Soviet, it has that little plumbob type gun port of the turret side,(at the cross) Germany didnt use those did they?

it is T 60 alright,. but rear facing turret :)

Another T 60 serving Germans :)
http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/panzer/Russian%20Tanks/slides/Russian%20Tank%20%20T-60.jpg

woj
03-15-2011, 05:22 AM
Well done gumalangi, I thought it would be more difficult ;)
Your turn!

gumalangi
03-15-2011, 06:13 AM
Thank you :)

Perhaps someone can identify this one :)

woj
03-15-2011, 06:30 AM
Certainly!
It is an Austrian heavy armoured car ADGZ also known as M35 Mittlere Panzerwagen.
This Photo was taken on 1. September 1939 in Gdansk during the attack of SS Heimwehr Danzig on Polish Post Office in Gdansk.

gumalangi
03-15-2011, 07:19 AM
outstanding!! :)

Please have your turn :)

woj
03-15-2011, 08:11 AM
OK, letīs try this one:

http://belllaitalia.blox.pl/resource/z77.jpg

04-05-2011, 11:28 PM
That would be the experimental SU-45 self propelled gun, based on the T-38 light tank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-38_tank

woj
04-06-2011, 06:39 AM
Well done once again Mr. Malarz. Congratulations!!! :)
The stage is yours...

woj
04-16-2011, 07:24 AM
Hi, Mr. Malarz
You puzzled out my picture question, so youīre authorized to adress a next one!
Letīs go, mate :)
And a new mystery soft skin vehicle should be posted too ;)

leccy
07-02-2011, 01:05 PM
Been quiet for a while so I will post an easy one for all.

5550

gumalangi
07-10-2011, 11:03 AM
Italian P40

leccy
07-10-2011, 02:08 PM
Italian P40

In German use.

Good enough to kick start it again, your turn.

gumalangi
01-02-2012, 06:25 AM
sorry for the very late reply :D

try this,.

5788

leccy
01-02-2012, 07:48 AM
Welcome back, seen the nice shiney toy you got.

Tank, Light, Mk VIII (A25), also known as the Harry Hopkins, supposed to be the successor to the Light Tank Mk VII Tetrarch.

Churchill
01-03-2012, 02:26 PM
Late indeed...

Glad to see this continue though.

gumalangi
01-06-2012, 07:50 AM
yeah that is correct Leccy Sir!,.. have it you go :)

leccy
01-07-2012, 04:24 PM
A nice easy one for you all

5790

Churchill
01-07-2012, 05:58 PM
I'm going to guess UK or USA, mostly because of the suspension.

leccy
01-07-2012, 06:11 PM
Its a UK design.

Churchill
01-08-2012, 05:19 PM
I don't have the designation, but looks kinda like a Universal Carrier with a Bofors 40mm on it...

wingsofwrath
01-08-2012, 05:36 PM
It's an Universal Carrier with an AT gun bodged onto it. Probably one of those anti invasion measures taken in 1940...

Later edit: Blast, beaten to the mark by a few minutes... Anyway, the designation should be something on the lines of [I]"Carrier, Anti-tank, 2-pdr"[/I and I verified it, it is indeed a Home Guard vehicle.

Churchill
01-09-2012, 12:57 AM
Yeah, I saw that too, but I also saw a Bofors version.

leccy
01-09-2012, 04:46 AM
Ok it is a home guard anti invasion version of the universal carrier but not with a bofors or two pounder. It had a pretty odd weapon fitted that eventually ended up with the RAF for airfield defence.

wingsofwrath
01-09-2012, 12:05 PM
Well, "Bofors 40" is a bit vague, and maybe we should have stated from the onset wherever we mean the antiaircraft "QF 40 mm Mark VI" or the antitank "Ordnance QF 2-pounder Mark IX on Carriage Mark I", since both are Bofors designs in the same caliber (just not the same cartridge though- one is 40Ũ364mmR while the other 40Ũ304 mmR respectively)

As for the mystery vehicle, your mention of RAF field defense made me think of the Northover Projector, but after I took a long second look at the barrel I became convinced that is in fact the so-called "Smith Gun", an ad-hoc 3-inch smoothbore AT gun used by the Home Guard.

leccy
01-09-2012, 02:13 PM
Wingsofwrath I thought that might help.

It is indeed a Universal Carrier equipped with a Smith Gun. A truly frightening weapon (whether for the crew or target though is debatable).

wingsofwrath
01-09-2012, 04:25 PM
From what I hear, it was dangerous to be within 300 yards of one such contraption, regardless of the side you were on, because it's projectile managed rather creative trajectories which usually had little to do with your aiming point...

Anyway, since I'm assuming it is now my turn to post, here is the next riddle:
5797

leccy
01-09-2012, 06:47 PM
T4 Medium Infantry Tank, I have seen a very similar photo to this but the tank has a big T4 painted on the hull.

Similar to the T4E1/2 Cavalry Combat Car

wingsofwrath
01-09-2012, 07:04 PM
You are absolutely correct!
In fact the photo you saw is exactly this one, but I removed the big "t4" marking from the hull, since I thought it would have been too much of a giveaway. Not that it mattered in the end...
Please proceed with the next riddle.

leccy
01-10-2012, 02:34 AM
Your image is much clearer than the one I have seen which looks like it was photocopyed from a book.

Try this rare piece. Vehicle and device if you could.

5798

wingsofwrath
01-10-2012, 03:07 AM
That's very simple my dear Mr. Leccy: what you have in your picture is nothing but the Sherman based M32 Tank Recovery Vehicle equipped with the T1E1 Earthworm anti-mine roller.
Subsequent incarnations of this design lost the middle roller and the crane.

leccy
01-10-2012, 07:31 AM
Darn way too easy, thought the roller might get someone as they had different numbers of rollers on the different models. The M32 I thought would be fairly easy.

Your turn.

wingsofwrath
01-11-2012, 05:54 AM
Ok then, this should be pretty easy to guess as well. Unfortunately I lost most of my best quiz pictures a few months back when some guy filched my laptop, so this will have to do for now until I can remake my database of obscure vehicles

5801.

leccy
01-11-2012, 06:46 AM
Nearly conned myself that this was a T26 or Vickers 6 Ton. Indeed it does share the same lineage with those two vehicles.

I believe it is the Polish 7TP jw (or Single Turret model).

wingsofwrath
01-11-2012, 08:22 AM
And right you are!
I confess, I was aiming to bamboozle people into saying Vickers 6 ton or T26, but apparently you are much too attentive for that.
If you know what to look for it's fairly easy to spot the taller rear deck that's so characteristic of the Polish variant.

As per custom, it's now your turn.

leccy
01-11-2012, 04:04 PM
Trying to confuse people is good, I noticed the gun mantel being an odd shape for a T26 or Vickers way before noticing the rear deck 'doh'.

Lets try this easy one

5803

wingsofwrath
01-11-2012, 04:26 PM
Hmm, if I'm not mistaken, your mystery tank is the Italian Carro Veloce CV-38 also known as "L3/38", a torsion bar variant of the L3/35 tankette which was also usually armed with a single 13.2 mm Breda M31 machine gun, but this particular example seems to sport the same twin 7 mm Madsen machine guns as the earlier model.

Edit: interestingly enough, this model was initially manufactured for export to Brasil.

leccy
01-11-2012, 07:35 PM
Lol said it was easy, yes the L3/38. I have read they were destined for Brazil but the only pictures I have seen of Brazilian L3's are the L3/35.

May have to start getting harder then.

wingsofwrath
01-12-2012, 03:40 AM
Indeed, it seems we should be kicking this up a notch. Well, here you are then:

5807

gumalangi
01-12-2012, 05:35 AM
looks easy,..

but looks can be deceiving,.. :cool:

Matilda Mk I

wingsofwrath
01-12-2012, 06:35 AM
Bingo!

My offer was indeed the "Tank, Infantry, Mk I, Matilda I (A11)" as it was officially known, a rather odd little vehicle which has absolutely nothing in common with the better known and more widely used " Tank, Infantry, Mark II (A12)" aka "Matilda II".

Your turn, my dear Mr. Gumalangi!

gumalangi
01-12-2012, 07:27 PM
Thank you sir,.

please ausf it :) 5809

leccy
01-13-2012, 06:33 PM
Panzer III Ausf M in the Soviet Union fitted with Schurzen

gumalangi
01-13-2012, 07:52 PM
Yes indeed Leccy sir! :)

have your turn :D

leccy
01-14-2012, 11:21 AM
Try this one then. Correct designation for the country of use if possible just to make it a little harder.

5813

wingsofwrath
01-14-2012, 01:12 PM
Hehe!
Lehký Tank vzor 35 in Romanian use as "Tancul Ușor Skoda R2"!
You do realise I am am Romanian and I can recognise that tank instantly, right?

leccy
01-14-2012, 01:59 PM
Lol the tank I assumed would be easyish, the uniforms possibly more difficult. The benefit of having an international site is people can help provide better information about their country's own kit.

Correctomundo, your turn.

wingsofwrath
01-16-2012, 08:43 AM
Also, I could tell you that the second guy from the right is in fact a mountain troop "Plutonier" (Nato OR-7, according to current standards) judging by the green beret he's wearing. The rest are all tankers, and the guy on the far right is a Sergeant, while the driver is most likely a "Maistru militar cl.I" (Nato OR-9, also corresponding to "Plutonier adjutant").

Also, here is the quiz question for today: What on earth is this?

5814

leccy
01-17-2012, 08:55 AM
Ok pretty sure I got it, any other takers.

gumalangi
01-18-2012, 12:48 AM
i had seen this before,. i cannot recall where,. leccy lets put a bullet on this dying horse :cool:

wingsofwrath
01-18-2012, 07:43 AM
I can confirm that Mr. Leccy has indeed guessed the mystery in a private message he sent me, so from here on he'll be the one to decide wherever he wants someone else to have a go at it or replace it with an enigma of his own.

leccy
01-18-2012, 03:30 PM
I was hoping we could get some more blood answering lol, otherwise I will have to start going through some of my real oddities.

I will leave it for a little while so I can look for some less common vehicles in case no one else gets it. I am sure questions about the vehicle would be permissible, all helps teach recognition points to help identify national characteristics.

Churchill
01-18-2012, 11:04 PM
I'd answer more often mate, but these are hard! Medium quiz my arse! :D

wingsofwrath
01-19-2012, 08:11 AM
Yeah, sorry about that, we are running out of suitable mysteries here, but really, this one IS medium difficulty if you know how to go at it.
After all, there are a number of things you know for certain about the picture (Armoured car, six wheels, has a sort of gun in the hull although it's not clear wherever it is a cannon or MG) and quite a few things you could ask that could help you narrow it down.
Also, there's no shame in not knowing instantly all the real obscure machines out there and having to make educated guesses instead of guessing outright, after all, we're here to learn, aren't we?

Churchill
01-19-2012, 01:43 PM
I'm not complaining about any in particular, believe me this is fun.

I kind of wish there were more people though...

gumalangi
01-20-2012, 05:36 AM
is this something to do with the dutch?

gumalangi
01-20-2012, 05:41 AM
something like this?
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSKP8cBq4zykP3MPlzz5Usb7phVbYZr w2EXp5ESSMoAE8rW-s9MQ

Daf M39 :D

but the one on the posed,. is the prototype :)

leccy
01-21-2012, 08:04 AM
You got the right vehicle, strangely the exact same photo I posted to wingsofwrath when I got it. Only 12 built and none saw action in Dutch use, all used by the Germans with some making it into France. Forward and reverse driving positions which was not too uncommon for the time period.
Armed with 3 x MG (front hull, rear hull, coax) and a 37mm Bofors.

I guess your go gumalangi

gumalangi
01-21-2012, 08:21 PM
here we go :)5820

Churchill
01-22-2012, 12:29 AM
Uh... I think its German. I'll guess one of the Czechoslovakian tanks captured by the Germans maybe made into a command post. Not going to list a model, because if I can get that close it doesn't really matter to me what it is...

gumalangi
01-22-2012, 03:15 AM
it is germans.. and build by them too :D

Churchill
01-22-2012, 12:20 PM
I'd say a variant of the Panzer IIL, maybe a command or resupply variant.

gumalangi
01-22-2012, 08:33 PM
you're getting there :)

another clue 5822

tom!
01-23-2012, 08:46 AM
Hi.

Hm, itīs really not that hard:

This is the Panzerkampfwagen II (F) a.k.a Flammpanzer II "Flamingo", easily recognisable by its small flamethrower turrets on the frontal track covers and the special MG turret.

Yours

tom! ;)

leccy
01-23-2012, 10:03 AM
Not too difficult for those that have seen one, there were relatively few made and they were not particularly successful, the survivors ended up being converted to Panzer Selbstfahrlafette 1 fur 7.62cm Pak36(r) in 1942

gumalangi
01-23-2012, 07:29 PM
A'ight Tom! :D,.

You got it right,. have your turn :)

tom!
01-25-2012, 04:34 AM
Hi.

Didnīt want to offend someone, sorry if it sounds so.

OK, identify the left one please:

5828

Yours

tom! ;)

leccy
01-25-2012, 12:44 PM
Interesting vehicles, not sure if what I have seen this picture is described as is true so looking for a bit more info, only found a single reference.

Modified French Lorraine 37L and a Renault Chenillette UE

leccy
01-27-2012, 05:29 PM
I am dubious about these being WW2 weapons or that the claims I have seen are correct. Most sites I have seen about these now do not agree with what they are or when and how they were developed.

The Lorraine is supposed to have a 17pdr mounted on it with a super muzzle brake to counter the recoil which was to great for the light vehicle.
The Chennillette is supposed to have a 6pdr mounted on it again with a super muzzle brake.

These are described generally as locally made by the Free French in the UK in 1944. Questions I have are

1. Why with the abundance of kit bother ? Even with possible chassis in Algeria, US and UK kit was available with less hassle including the all important spares back up.
2. How did the vehicles get to the UK ?
3. The muzzle brake looks an intricate design unlike anything seen before or after, did the French have the industrial and design capacity to develop them in the UK ?

Any info you have would be enlightening, the nearest to any other pictures of a similar combination I have seen on the Lorraine are of Syrian modified/produced vehicles with French 75mm but the muzzle brake is not of a similar design.

gumalangi
01-27-2012, 08:34 PM
i crossed check,. i think leccy got it right :D,.

perhaps the forum is yours Leccy sir :)

leccy
01-28-2012, 07:04 AM
Side view of the Lorraine L37 conversion, I have seen that these may be a post war production or at least built in France after liberation possibly using chassis manufactured in the Lorraine factory which continued production of the vehicle and even made armoured chassis that were used by the FFI.

5833

Churchill
02-03-2012, 12:28 AM
Somebody post one that isn't me!

leccy
02-03-2012, 04:31 AM
Ok will have a dig around later and post one. Getting a new rayburn fitted so a bit busy.

gumalangi
02-03-2012, 10:13 PM
dont take too long to search lecc,..
dont be too hard on us :D

leccy
02-04-2012, 03:04 AM
Not a tank but lets see what you make of this one.

5874

gumalangi
02-04-2012, 05:14 AM
7.5cm Selbstfahrlafette L/40.8 model 1

Three prototypes were built but all three varied slightly.

5875

another view,. :)

leccy
02-04-2012, 06:24 AM
Darn that was quick, your turn gumalangi. I was hoping for some variation of the Sdkfz 251 at least.

gumalangi
02-05-2012, 01:42 AM
haha,. i was lucky,. :D

try this :),. 5876

leccy
02-05-2012, 07:03 AM
SU 14 Soviet SPG built on a T35 Chassis at a random guess

wingsofwrath
02-05-2012, 03:22 PM
Yes, that's a SU14, indeed. I was late for this one. Then again, that thing is immediately recognizable (http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/SU-14) to anyone who routinely plays World of Tanks...

leccy
02-05-2012, 05:07 PM
I have not met this beastie yet on WoT, then again I am staying a lowly tier 2 mostly (Panzer II and T26 with the odd sojourn into a tier 3 (D2 and Panzer IIIA).

gumalangi
02-05-2012, 07:17 PM
i guess the thread is now to leccy :)

wingsofwrath
02-05-2012, 07:20 PM
Tier II is a lot of fun indeed. I have a BT2, Tetrarch as well as a Marder II I keep for low tier battles and I've stopped with the rest of my vehicles in tiers V-VI (su85, KV, KV3, KV1S) Higher tiers tend to be boring, with huge amounts of money spent on ammunition and repairs between games.

gumalangi
02-05-2012, 09:19 PM
WoT seems fun game,. :)
btw @wingsofwrath,. how about the mystery fish on the quiz naval forum sir?,. is it a bingo? :D

leccy
02-06-2012, 11:52 AM
Ok will have a look see later for something to post.

wingsofwrath

I have got a tier IV but as I am going with the French (until the British tech tree comes along) I am stuck with a slow, 47mm gun armed Char B1. Not much fun to face those fast and deadly KV with.

wingsofwrath
02-06-2012, 02:27 PM
Please excuse the off-topicness, it's a one time thing:
@leccy. Ouch. I went the light tank route as far as the French tanks are concerned, and I remember trudging along in the AMX 40 (the rubber duck of doom as it's informally known) and loathe the slow speed and acceleration (12km/h on flat terrain). However, I also distinctly remember that the AMX 40, despite being a light tank is a lot more armoured than the Char B1 as well as having a 75mm gun, and, in fact, I once took out two B1s head on and killed them both without taking damage at all! Now I drive an AMX 13/75 and absolutely love the six shot rapid fire preloader as well as the accuracy and stopping power of the gun. I've even managed to kill IS3s with it!
In your case, I would brace myself, since the worst is still to come - the next tank you'll get is the BDR G1B, which, despite a pretty good gun has tissue paper for armour and is outmatched by most of the foes it will meet. I one-shot killed some with my KV and it's even vulnerable to the 75mm gun of the AMX 40. The ARL 44 which comes next is a tad underpowered when compared to Soviet, German or American tanks from the same tier, but I've been told the AMX 50 which comes next is a very good tank indeed.

leccy
02-07-2012, 10:29 AM
Lets see how you are with this fine design.

5890


wingsofwrath

Indeed the French Heavies are a real drain on the patience at times, so slow and underpowered but on the forums people complain they are too strong. My nipper is regularly pitted in his Hetzer (tier III) against Tigers etc (tier VI and tier VII). Talk about rubber bullets, he is considering premium to get the quality AP rounds. I just had some fun bouncing rounds off a KV in my Panzer IIIa (drive round him faster than he can turn his turret shooting away, think I just deafened him before a T28 got me)

gumalangi
02-08-2012, 12:42 AM
the tires,.. it is british :)

leccy
02-08-2012, 04:57 AM
Not British but it is related in some way.

Churchill
05-15-2013, 09:01 PM
I don't know what it is, but this place has been inactive for too long!

What is this???

6537

Nickdfresh
05-16-2013, 06:11 AM
Looks like some Israel Super-Sherman. Possibly a test mule? Is that an L7 105mm gun?

wingsofwrath
05-16-2013, 06:14 AM
That would be an Israeli M50/51 Super Sherman armed with a 60mm Hyper-Velocity Medium Support weapon (HVMS 60) quick-firing gun.

EDIT: oh, and incidentally, the earlier picture was a Marmon-Herrington Armored Car Mk.VIII : http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/armored_cars/uac/marmon_mk8.htm
So South African, not British.

leccy
05-16-2013, 12:00 PM
That would be an Israeli M50/51 Super Sherman armed with a 60mm Hyper-Velocity Medium Support weapon (HVMS 60) quick-firing gun.

EDIT: oh, and incidentally, the earlier picture was a Marmon-Herrington Armored Car Mk.VIII : http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/armored_cars/uac/marmon_mk8.htm
So South African, not British.

Correct with the M-H Armoured car.

leccy
05-16-2013, 12:01 PM
That would be an Israeli M50/51 Super Sherman armed with a 60mm Hyper-Velocity Medium Support weapon (HVMS 60) quick-firing gun.

EDIT: oh, and incidentally, the earlier picture was a Marmon-Herrington Armored Car Mk.VIII : http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/armored_cars/uac/marmon_mk8.htm
So South African, not British.

Correct with the M-H Armoured car.

Churchill
05-16-2013, 12:37 PM
That would be an Israeli M50/51 Super Sherman armed with a 60mm Hyper-Velocity Medium Support weapon (HVMS 60) quick-firing gun.

While you have the armament correct, the designation is incorrect as this particular model was not used by Israel.

tankgeezer
05-16-2013, 01:02 PM
The Shield emblem on the Turret looks a bit like the one on my Swiss Army Knife, but that doesn't look much like Switzerland.

Churchill
05-16-2013, 01:57 PM
You're right, it isn't.

pdf27
05-16-2013, 02:57 PM
It's Chilean, apparently - http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Chile/Chi-SuperSherman.jpg
http://s631.photobucket.com/user/kilomuse/media/Tanks/m51_10.jpg.html

wingsofwrath
05-16-2013, 04:13 PM
Heh. It is indeed in Chilean service (something which I knew, since I was familiar with the picture) but all Chilean M50/51 Super Shermans were ex-Iraeli stocks and I thought the country of manufacture mattered more than the country which used them. My bad, I concede defeat, and mr. pdf27 should post the next picture. XD

pdf27
05-16-2013, 06:37 PM
Fair enough. Hopefully mildly awkward since I've just finished work for the day having started at 9am and am in a mood to match...

6538

Churchill
05-16-2013, 07:14 PM
It's Chilean, apparently - http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Chile/Chi-SuperSherman.jpg
http://s631.photobucket.com/user/kilomuse/media/Tanks/m51_10.jpg.html

Yes, and in Chile it was known as the M-60 SuperSherman.

wingsofwrath
05-17-2013, 01:39 AM
That would be the FV 4005 Stage 2, a Centurion based tank destroyer prototype armed with a massive 183mm gun. It's displayed at Bovington if I'm not mistaken, but it's not the actual prototype, which was dismantled in 1957, but simply the turret placed on another Centurion hull.
http://arcaneafvs.com/conway.html

pdf27
05-17-2013, 01:50 AM
Yep, you've got it. For bonus points can you identify the grey thing in the background?

Churchill
05-17-2013, 12:21 PM
Hey, is that the same gun as on the FV 215b (183), or a different model with the same calibre?

tankgeezer
05-17-2013, 01:07 PM
It looks to be the same gun, but on the conqueror hull, which might make the gun look a bit smaller in comparison to the Cent. application.

Churchill
05-17-2013, 01:27 PM
Makes sense.

pdf27
05-17-2013, 01:49 PM
Same gun (more or less - the Conway had a 7 round autoloader that may not have carried through). Exactly what the gun was is a little less clear - the ammunition (or at least the HESH shells*) was shared with the 7.2" Howitzer from WW2, but I can't actually find any evidence if much else of the gun was shared.

* The 7.2" Howitzers had been used for the trials of large HESH projectiles (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=HMx_6FtHBcUC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=183+mm+L4&source=bl&ots=_kRhoKKebd&sig=AvcG_PRHEpqDPb_CYEZnWFd5Meg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fnSWUYK3BKOJ0AXJo4GoAg&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=183%20mm%20L4&f=false) so they were piggy-backing off this work. In the circumstances, I suspect it's a plain old 7.2" Howitzer in a different mounting - only one or two gun barrels appear ever to have existed.

wingsofwrath
05-17-2013, 06:45 PM
The grey thing is a Centurion Mark 3 converted into a target tank to teach infantrymen how to shoot MILAN and Carl Gustav AT rockets at actual moving targets, using inert projectiles.
http://preservedtanks.com/Profile.aspx?UniqueId=1377

Also, I don't have a ready picture and, because I have guard duty early tomorrow, I lack the time to actually find a worthwhile one, so please feel free to post another enigma. I actually enjoy searching for the right answer a lot more anyway.

Manovar
07-02-2013, 03:40 AM
Sturminfanteriegeschütz 33 B auf PzKpfw III Fahrgestell ?

Churchill
08-05-2013, 07:46 PM
Clear! *defibrillation commences*

What is this chaps?

6642

pdf27
08-06-2013, 01:28 AM
http://preservedtanks.com/Profile.aspx?UniqueID=1965

You really should have obscured the registration number!

Churchill
08-06-2013, 08:59 AM
Gah, its been so long since I posted one that I forgot! D'oh!

pdf27
08-06-2013, 11:49 AM
Not strictly speaking armoured (so far as I know), but close enough...

6644

tankgeezer
08-06-2013, 03:13 PM
Gah, its been so long since I posted one that I forgot! D'oh!
A "senior Moment" at your age? ;) :)

Churchill
08-07-2013, 12:09 AM
Yeah, already right?

Its a super-DUKW!

pdf27
08-07-2013, 01:01 AM
Nope, not American!

Churchill
08-07-2013, 08:39 AM
Curses... Then again, injecting DUKWs with steroids is a terrible idea.

wingsofwrath
08-07-2013, 09:27 AM
It is a rather little obscure vehicle, isn't it? The mystery vehicle is none other than the British Terrapin MK II 5-ton Amphibious Vehicle. Only 5 were ever produced. Here's the relevant wiki link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrapin_%28amphibious_vehicle%29

pdf27
08-07-2013, 10:20 AM
Yep, all yours :)

tankgeezer
08-07-2013, 11:44 AM
Was the Terrapin built by Alvis? it has that look about it..

pdf27
08-07-2013, 11:48 AM
Designed by Thornycroft, manufactured by Morris.

tankgeezer
08-07-2013, 03:44 PM
Thank you. I should have seen the Marina pedigree in it.. :)

Churchill
08-08-2014, 10:43 AM
Alright Chaps, this place has been dead for too long! What is this:

7160

navyson
08-08-2014, 05:15 PM
An armored car? :mrgreen:
How've you been Churchill?

Churchill
08-08-2014, 05:53 PM
Yup. Figured I'd make the first new one a bit interesting.

I've been doing well, still working on university things, jumping from bachelors to masters in geographic information science. How about you?

navyson
08-13-2014, 09:22 PM
Hey Churchill, been doing well myself. Been a busy summer.
Is this an Austin armored car from the First World War?

Churchill
08-14-2014, 12:08 AM
First World War yes, Austin no.

navyson
08-14-2014, 07:39 AM
Russian Mgebrov Renault armoured car?

Churchill
08-14-2014, 11:12 AM
Yup, the Izhorsky Mgebrov-Renault.

Bring it on Navyson!

navyson
08-15-2014, 07:35 AM
7161
Probably super easy, but thought it was hilarious!

Churchill
08-15-2014, 02:24 PM
F.R. Simms' 1902 Motor War Car

Hah, I like it, though I'd hate to be the guy behind the machine gun!

navyson
08-15-2014, 04:33 PM
Yup, that was it! Might as well be a clown car except for the machine gun!

tankgeezer
08-15-2014, 06:28 PM
Well, at least it was a step up from his other creation,,,,,

Churchill
08-15-2014, 07:00 PM
lol, that's the kind of bike I want... I could retaliate against aggressive drivers.

7163

navyson
08-15-2014, 08:12 PM
Well, at least it was a step up from his other creation,,,,,

I saw that one also, love the "armor" in front of the machine gun!

tankgeezer
08-15-2014, 11:19 PM
This one may suit you better Churchill,,

Churchill
08-15-2014, 11:50 PM
Hah, I've seen that at the Saumur Tank Museum.

I'd drive that. Such fun.

tankgeezer
08-16-2014, 08:03 AM
Very useful in rush hour traffic..

navyson
08-16-2014, 08:08 AM
It took a while... Is it British super heavy tank A1E1?