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Old 02-27-2007, 08:22 PM
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The purpose of the Blendkorper was not to destroy the tank, simply because it cannot achieve that, the purpose was to blind the tank crew allowing the panzerknackers to move close in and destroy the armored vehicle by explosive or kinetic energie weapons.

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Old 02-28-2007, 12:19 PM
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So...would the molotov cocktail prove somewhat effective against the crew of a tank if the gasoline (or whichever fuel was being used) got into the tank through port holes, copulas, etc. and the flame traveled with it?

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Old 02-28-2007, 06:38 PM
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Yes, surprinsingly it may appear it the right use ( like urban enviroment) a Molotov coktail could effective.

However the problem with this crude weapon is the same of all the hand-launched ones...his very short range.







It really never was a important weapon in the german arsenal, there was better ones.
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Thankyou. So I suppose this weapon would be similiar to the use of an AT rifle...

Not to destroy the tank, but to kill the crew...
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Or at list made the combat vehicle so hot and smoky that the crew had to abandon it.




A improvised incendiary bomb was also included in the field manual "Die panzerknacker", it consist in a normal stick grenade attached to a jerry can fuel tank. Like a super molotov.


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Old 03-01-2007, 10:56 PM
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Nice, Panzerknacker. This may be a little off-topic, but since we are on the subject of AT weapons, did the German Panzerfaust (Any MM) have a sling?
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Old 03-02-2007, 09:33 AM
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Some had it.. Do you want a Panzerfaust topic ?

No problemo.

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You can see the HHL-3 in this video at 0:05 and from 3:08 to 3:54. Shows how they used in just like decribed in those articles. Also if im not mistaken at around 4:02 you can see that stick grenade with abunch tied to it. i personally liked the video.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:23 PM
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Sound good, but the link to the vid is not visible
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:23 AM
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wow im not retarded forgot to post the video sorry here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fWI0...elated&search=
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yeah, the movie STALINGRAD (D, 1992). not the badest movie at all, but it has some lenghts, what is difficult to tell when you see these scenes. the battle with the tanks seen here and the fighting in the factory-plant are pretty good, the rest is a bit boring sometimes.

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I watched it in the cinema in 1992 with my grandfather who werved on the eastern front. he was quite impressed with that motion picture.

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Nice video ¡¡

I recognice your signature just seconds after your fisrt post my dear incendiary friend

The daisyflower looking grenade is the Geballte ladung:

Handgranate
Handgrenades are often used against tanks, usually not due to any special AT capability of these weapons but because of their availability. Although a regular handgrenade could not kill a healthy full-grown tank it might damage it esp. immobilize it with a lucky explosion in the track. But there were also special AT handgrenades dedicated to fight armor.

The most famous german hand grenade is probably the Stielhandgranate 24 ("stick hand grenade"), often referred to as the stick grenade or the potato masher by allied soldiers. The grenade's time fuse was activated by unscrewing the bottom and pulling the Abreisszünder ("rip detonator") safety cord (see picture at right). It weighed 480g, had an overall length of 35.6cm and had a warhead with a length of 7.5 cm and a diameter of 6cm that contained 165g of explosives (different explosives were used over the course of the war).



The cylindrical warhead was also available as a hand grenade without the stick under the designation Handgranate 43. This cylindrical warhead could be used for other purposes:
combined with a pressure-activated trigger they served as mines.
Several Handgranate 43 warheads could also be combined with a Stielhandgranate to make a large explosive grenade bundle.

This combination of one Stielhandgranate 24 with 6 of the same warheads without the stick was very popular and often referred to as the "Geballte Ladung" ("forceful/big charge")



by the troops although this designation is rather colloquial and was actually semi-officially in use for an engineer weapon. The complete weapon combination looked like a flower with the grenade stick of the central Stielhandgranate as the stalk and the Hd.Gr.43 warheads surrounding it like petals (see sketch at right). It was often used as an improvised makeshift AT weapon.
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once i realized i forgot to post the video, it took me forever to find it again. i didnt know what it was called. I always wanted to watch the movie stalingrad, its always rented in the local rogers video.
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This combination of one Stielhandgranate 24 with 6 of the same warheads without the stick was very popular and often referred to as the "Geballte Ladung" ("forceful/big charge")

Would this be the set that was used in the '97 Stalingrad during the Winter Tank scene?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-DWX8NgiYs
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:29 PM
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Your link dont work, but yes I think it was the grenade.

Actually I ve found that the Geballte ladung is a very old weapon, it was used first in...1918 against the British Tanks in WW1.

However a well placed GL could put out of action most of the russian tank tracks and also is told that exploding in contact with armor was enough to break 20-25 mm steel and stun the crew inside.



Waffen SS soldier arming a geballte ladung grenade.




Off course dont try to stop a Pershing or JS- 2 with this because you probably will die.
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