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Thread: What if the South Won the Civil War?

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    Default Re: What if the South Won the Civil War?

    A bit like those diehard Confederates who retreated into Mexico rather surrender at the end of the Civil War, I suppose - banned but Undefeated ...

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    Default Re: What if the South Won the Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by JR* View Post
    A bit like those diehard Confederates who retreated into Mexico rather surrender at the end of the Civil War, I suppose - banned but Undefeated ...

    Yours from Vera Cruz,

    JR.
    Not banned..just temporarily on forced vacation..the South Lives On!!!Long Live Dixie!!
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    Default Re: What if the South Won the Civil War?

    First of all, I am so overjoyed that I have found this forum on the American Civil War. I am currently reading about the early years of the conflict and have found the times quite fascinating. I wish I could say that I had relatives in the conflict, although I often like to identity myself with the young boys from the Carolinas, who fought bravely in the war because I settled there twenty-five years ago. North Carolina screams its patrotism, and sometimes I, as a native Pole, feel obligated to support that state's contribution to the Civil War.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post

    The use of free labor to sustain an elitist lifestyle for a very small segments of the plantation owning upper-classes that was exploitive not only to their black slaves gladly donating their free labors, their lives, and the lives of their children--but also to the multitude of poor white farmers suckered into fighting for their homes--so others could live lives of leisure? Correct me if that isn't economic...
    From what I've tentatively gathered, Southerners wanted a war in order to defend the integrity and honor of their home States. General Robert E. Lee stated as such in his speeches and deeds, and I can reasonably believe that Lee wanted not only to defend Virginia but an agrarian economic system that engulfed the South and consumed the energies and lives of its inhabitants. Southerners often stress the differences that separate them from Northerners, even if those differences involve economic exploitation and serfdom, which, I believe adequately describes sharecropping as it existed in the South.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    The entire issue of slavery was political and the War would never have been fought if their had been no slavery, which violates the U.S. Constitution BTW.
    In all due respect, Nicolas, we are in more agreement here than what might be supposed. But I must take issue with this quotation above. The Civil war was not only about the issue of slavery (a compromise between the members present at the inception of the country might be closer to the truth). The issues separating the North from the South were political and economic in origin. First of all, the South believed that the constitution was a federal contract with each state, and each state that composed the union had little obligations to the federal government, which the Confederate government believed could not extend beyond the bounds of national defense, taxation and census taking. The federal government contract existed because of the good graces of the states, which could uphold and defend the contract if it chose. Also, the South believed that tariff issue violated the federal government's duties delineated in the constitution. If the North could not find a compromise solution to the tariff issue, then South must find another way to trade with the outside world.
    Last edited by Kregs; 01-24-2015 at 10:56 PM.

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