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    True in parth, but the soya has brought an period of unequalled growth in the period 2003-2007 for the producers, the people working for the producers and for the construction business, today you can see new cars ( some of them very pricey) a new houses/apartaments everywhere.
    After all soyabean and sunflowers export was the thing wich rescued Argentina from a very bad economical crissis of 2001-02.

    If they refused to leave, armed groups would steal their cattle, burn their crops and threaten them with violence. Once traditional communities like these are dislodged, the situation becomes irreversible. To counteract this phenomenon, a peasant organisation called the Santiago del Estero Farmers' Movement (MOCASE – Movimiento Campesino de Santiago del Estero) has been formed to defend the rights of local people. So far, they have had some successes. Nevertheless, the lure of profits from RR soya is the latest and most serious threat to their livelihoods.
    Well, this part ( armed violence) is kind of invention, we are not Brazil in wich the estancia owners imposess its own at shotgun point ( remember incidents like the Chico mendes case), I dont remember any of this in the past years. I do now however that there were several trials in wich people has been legally expelled from their ( supposedly their) land by bigger fatter landowers.

    Today the Goverment keeps 34,5 % of the dollars of the export of Soyabean. ( a big, BIG amount of money) teorically to deter the expansion of the cultive...at the same time the Govt in this way had made himself very dependant of it .
    I think the big problem with soyabean is the exhaustion of the land, after the harvest only thing you can see is a dusty path of land.

    Probably the most balance solution would be a law regulating a proper rotation of the cultives, combining soya with wheat, sunflower, linseed, etc.

    Milk is now being imported from Uruguay at a higher price.
    Milk as far I now (reading the labels in my fridge) is still coming from our sacred land. However the low ( at list low from the producers point of view) prices thing is always a trouble.
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    From my point of view, the main problem with soya, is that it is being cultivated to produce bio-fuels. The mad thing about this is that, in the main, and probably not the case in Argentina, they soya producing companies are reducing the rain-forests in order to make way for cultivation. How can that be ecologically sound?

    Generally speaking, I think it a sad situation when people are displaced from their traditional ways of life to make way for, so-called, progress. Usually because someone wants to make a fast buck rather than there being any real benefits to the population as a whole.

    Having read other reports regarding the cattle industry in Argentina, a very large country, the industry apears to be thriving in other areas, so, perhaps the picture for the country as a whole isn't quite so glum.


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    Could be in a small pecentage, I know of first hand ( one of my uncles work for the AFA, federation of argentines farmers) and he told me most of teh soyabean go to asiatic countries for making animal food. other part go to make lecitine, an aditive for candies and other sweets.

    Generally speaking, I think it a sad situation when people are displaced from their traditional ways of life to make way for, so-called, progress. Usually because someone wants to make a fast buck rather than there being any real benefits to the population as a whole.
    Agreed, soya reason of being is fast buck. In spite of being one of the less complicated cultives is still the best priced.

    Having read other reports regarding the cattle industry in Argentina, a very large country, the industry apears to be thriving in other areas, so, perhaps the picture for the country as a whole isn't quite so glum.
    definately is not, however I should tell you a little secret...in spite of the popular images of infinite grass field along our country there are plenty of desertic plains too, completely unsuitable for other thing that goat of lamb. Fortunately the desert can cooperate to make another fine product, wine.


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