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    Recently, British Royal Marines in Iraq wrote to Starbucks because they wanted to let them know how much they liked their coffees, and to request that they send some of it to the troops there.

    Starbucks replied, telling the Royal Marines thank you for their support of their business, but that Starbucks does not support the war, nor anyone in it, and that they would not send the troops their brand of coffee.

    So as not to offend Starbucks, maybe we should support them by NOT buying any of their products!

    I feel we should get this out in the open. I know this war might not be very popular with some folks, but that doesn't mean we don't support the boys on the ground, fighting street-to-street and, house-to-house.

    If you feel the same as I do then pass this along.

    Thanks very much for your support. I know you'll all be there again when I deploy once more.
    Sgt. Howard Wright,
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    There's another reason for me not to go to Starbucks.
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    Never did like their coffee anyway, now I have a good reason.

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    Only one slight problem with this,

    RM do not have RECON companies let alone 1 platoon.

    If it was correct the address would be written
    Sgt H Wight (we tend not to use first names although a middle initial would have confirmed it)
    1 Pl (platoon is only rarely written I full and then only on official documents same as Sgt)
    Recce Coy (recce never ever, ever recon, wouldn’t be seen dead writing it)
    RM (again you only need RM, it needs no further explanation as there is only one)

    Full stops were discontinued on abbreviation 30-40 years as it was seen that with each use you move the typewriter ribbon over and it was a cost saving not to use superfluous full stops.

    Any one involved with UK or Commonwealth forces would refer to it as Recce Pl (seem to think in the back of my mind that the RM use troops not platoons)* and only cavalry regt have Recce coy or more correctly recce Sqns within recce regts. The only higher formation recce the RM have is the mountain and artic warfare cardre which would be pl size and definitely not coy. It is a training unit that can draw on marines who have completed the course to form the brigade recce troop.

    http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/royalmar...ecialisations/

    Mountain Leader
    As a Mountain Leader, you will be trained in rock climbing, vertical assault, survival skills, sniping and escape and evasion techniques so that you can provide longrange reconnaissance for the Royal Marines.
    * thought so, a quick check and you have

    Young Officers hold the rank of 2Lt until they have completed training; this includes their first year as a Troop Commander, in an operational unit.
    So to sum up, bollocks, another subversive dig at a multi national and you fell for it hook line and sinker.

    32 I would have thought you would have spotted the recon gaff.
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    Yeah. A lot of this silly, completely made-up crap pervades the internet. Incidently, I really like Starbucks coffee but usually find that Tim Horton's (sort of Canada's Duncan Donuts that is popular in the US Northeast as well) suffices and is far easier to get...

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    I'm actually drinking Starbucks as of the moment.

    I guess they just made a mistake there. That doesn't actually mean that if they send coffee to the marines, they are supporting the war already right ? that would have been a hasty generalization.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seebee View Post
    I'm actually drinking Starbucks as of the moment.

    I guess they just made a mistake there. That doesn't actually mean that if they send coffee to the marines, they are supporting the war already right ? that would have been a hasty generalization.

    I think we're saying the whole thing is a completely made-up internet rumor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2nd of foot View Post
    Only one slight problem with this,

    RM do not have RECON companies let alone 1 platoon.

    If it was correct the address would be written
    Sgt H Wight (we tend not to use first names although a middle initial would have confirmed it)
    1 Pl (platoon is only rarely written I full and then only on official documents same as Sgt)
    Recce Coy (recce never ever, ever recon, wouldn’t be seen dead writing it)
    RM (again you only need RM, it needs no further explanation as there is only one)

    Full stops were discontinued on abbreviation 30-40 years as it was seen that with each use you move the typewriter ribbon over and it was a cost saving not to use superfluous full stops.

    Any one involved with UK or Commonwealth forces would refer to it as Recce Pl (seem to think in the back of my mind that the RM use troops not platoons)* and only cavalry regt have Recce coy or more correctly recce Sqns within recce regts. The only higher formation recce the RM have is the mountain and artic warfare cardre which would be pl size and definitely not coy. It is a training unit that can draw on marines who have completed the course to form the brigade recce troop.

    http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/royalmar...ecialisations/



    * thought so, a quick check and you have



    So to sum up, bollocks, another subversive dig at a multi national and you fell for it hook line and sinker.

    32 I would have thought you would have spotted the recon gaff.

    I have to agree.

    I received an e-mail today stating that it was a a scam, that said Sergeant was in the US Marines and that he has withdrawn his comments.


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    I still dont like Starbucks coffee,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2nd of foot View Post
    If it was correct the address would be written
    Sgt H Wight (we tend not to use first names although a middle initial would have confirmed it)
    1 Pl (platoon is only rarely written I full and then only on official documents same as Sgt)
    Recce Coy (recce never ever, ever recon, wouldn’t be seen dead writing it)
    RM (again you only need RM, it needs no further explanation as there is only one)
    How does a company exist within the Royal Marines without being part of a normal hierarchy of battalion, brigade, etc?

    Do the Marines have stand alone special purpose companies such as recce companies, perhaps like Australia had during WWII which were titled Independent Companies and which were commando units http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/co...australia.html ?
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    "Although God cannot alter the past, Historians can"


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    Quote Originally Posted by 32Bravo View Post
    Thanks.

    I was thinking that the Marines should follow Army structures, but I'd forgotten that the Marines are Navy rather than Army.

    Commandos here are Army, and I think they were in Britain during WWII (or maybe not?).

    Are all British commandos now Marines, or are there Army commandos as well?

    Not so long ago our only commando unit was an army reserve unit (the descendant of which my idiot son wants to join if he ever gets through our Army's brilliantly constructed obstacles to enlisting anyone) but the term has expanded since: http://www.ausspecialforces.com/commandos.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    Thanks.

    I was thinking that the Marines should follow Army structures, but I'd forgotten that the Marines are Navy rather than Army.

    Commandos here are Army, and I think they were in Britain during WWII (or maybe not?).

    Are all British commandos now Marines, or are there Army commandos as well?

    Not so long ago our only commando unit was an army reserve unit (the descendant of which my idiot son wants to join if he ever gets through our Army's brilliantly constructed obstacles to enlisting anyone) but the term has expanded since: http://www.ausspecialforces.com/commandos.htm
    Although due to common acceptance every one thinks commandos are RM there have always been army commandos along side the RMs.

    Originally they were all army and the RM were a formed units that converted to commando (a bit like the changes to the airborne forces) unlike the army who were volunteers and so looked down on the RM.

    Following the war the RM continued the raiding role as it gave them a reason to live when all others were being disbanded. The support elements were provided by the army, guns (29 Regt), air defence, engineers (24 Regt) and logsp.

    They have finally realised that they need more army support and 1 Rifles has come under command 3 Cdo Bde. There was much talk that they would not pass the training but as infantry soldiers have always wondered down to Lympstone to do the Cdo course over the years it turned out to be no big deal. As can be seen form the passed if a unit need to convert to another role it will.

    As for the Recce company, I was writing it in how it should be written if it was a proper unit not made up.
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    \'E don\'t obey no orders unless they is \'is own;
    \'E keeps \'is side-arms awful: \'e leaves \'em all about,
    An\' then comes up the regiment an\' pokes the \'eathen out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2nd of foot View Post
    The support elements were provided by the army, guns (29 Regt), air defence, engineers (24 Regt) and logsp.
    A bit like our 126 Signals Squadron, which became an integral part of our commando / special forces structure. http://www.cdoassoc.com/126SigSqn/
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    "Starbucks" joints are considered such hip places in Germany I don't even dare to put a foot into one...
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