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    Im looking for most amazing ww2 videos... close urban fights,dog fights and other... if you hawe this kind of stuff share with me!
    this is one of my favorite video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqH_WEqNK5Y

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    "Platoon" was and is the biggest insult and most disrespectful presentation to American fighting men ever produced.
    It came out at a time when there was still much social turmoil and sensationalised the worst aspects of a very small group.
    For whatever reason, it was taken as gospel by many, and an accurate overall portrayal of Americans in Vietnam.

    Just sayin'

    The most effective clip for me is the destruction of the Panther in frontof the Cologne Cathedral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forager View Post
    "Platoon" was and is the biggest insult and most disrespectful presentation to American fighting men ever produced.
    It came out at a time when there was still much social turmoil and sensationalised the worst aspects of a very small group.
    That's the nature of drama and cinema. It revolves around manufactured conflict and good v bad and compressing it all into something that never happened while convincing people that it did in the interests of entertaining them for the ultimate purpose of conferring obscene profits upon those involved in making the cinematic fairytale.

    Quote Originally Posted by forager View Post
    For whatever reason, it was taken as gospel by many, and an accurate overall portrayal of Americans in Vietnam.
    Which in its own way is fair enough when we consider how people take propaganda films as reasonable. If they didn't, governments wouldn't make them.

    I have run into people who think that Platoon and Apocalypse Now are semi-documentaries and other idiots who think much the same about The Green Berets, not to mention idiots who think that The Odd Angry Shot serves the same function for Australian troops in Vietnam. Such films are best viewed in the light of this contemporary review of The Green Berets.

    "THE GREEN BERETS" is a film so unspeakable, so stupid, so rotten and false in every detail that it passes through being fun, through being funny, through being camp, through everything and becomes an invitation to grieve, not for our soldiers or for Vietnam (the film could not be more false or do a greater disservice to either of them) but for what has happened to the fantasy-making apparatus in this country. Simplicities of the right, simplicities of the left, but this one is beyond the possible. It is vile and insane. On top of that, it is dull.

    The film, directed by John Wayne and nominally based on a novel by Robin Moore, has no hero. It is vaguely about some Green Berets, led by John Wayne, trying to persuade Wayne's idea of a liberal journalist (David Janssen) that this war is a fine thing for Vietnam and for America. The movie has human props taken from every war film ever made: a parachute jump; an idea of Vietcong soldiers, in luxury, uniform, champagne and caviar, apparently based on the German high command; a little Asian orphan named Hamchunk, pronounced Hamchuck but more like Upchuck than anything; battle scenes somewhere between "The Red Badge of Courage" and "The Dirty Dozen"; a pathetically dying dog.

    There is inadvertent humor: "He's dying," a Negro medic says, thoughtfully spooning Jim Beam bourbon down the throat of an elderly Oriental. "Poor old thing can't even keep his rice down any more." What is clearly an Indian extra in a loincloth somehow straggles in among the montagnards. A Vietcong general is dragged from a bed of sin (which, through an indescribable inanity of the plot, the Green Berets have contrived for him) with his trousers on. He is subsequently drugged and yanked off into the sky on a string dangling from a helicopter. A Green Beret points out to the journalist some American-made punji sticks (the movie is obsessed with punji sticks): "Yup," the Green Beret says, "it's a little trick we learned from Charlie. But we don't dip them in the same stuff he does."

    What the movie is into is another thing entirely. What is sick, what is an outrage and a travesty is that while it is meant to be an argument against war opposition—while it keeps reiterating its own line at every step, much as soap operas keep recapitulating their plots—it seems so totally impervious to any of the questions that it raises. It is so full of its own caricature of patriotism that it cannot even find the right things to falsify. No acting, no direction, no writing, no authenticity, of course. But it is worse. It is completely incommunicado, out of touch. It trips something that would outrage any human sensibility, like mines, at every step and staggers on.

    The first Green Beret comes on speaking German, to show his versatility in languages. When the VC have just been sprayed with flames, a Green Beret is asked about his apparent affinity for this kind of thing. "When I was a kid," he says modestly, "my dad gave me a chemistry set. And it got bigger than both of us." When the VC, nonetheless, win the Special Forces camp in hand-to-hand combat, a soldier calls in air support. "It'll only take a minute," he says, like a dentist, as the VC are mowed down from the air. The journalist, "the former skeptic about the war," the press kit synopsis chooses to say at this point, "leaves to write about the heroic exploits of the American and South Vietnamese forces."

    The point is that Wayne is using spoken German, lunatic chemistry sets, machine killing of men who have won fairly hand-to-hand, without apparently noticing that this is not exactly the stuff of which heroic fantasies are made. This is crazy. If the left-wing extremist's nightmare of what we already are has become the right-wing extremist's ideal of what we ought to be we are in steeper trouble than anyone could have imagined. The movie opened yesterday at the Warner Theater.
    http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/revi...b0668383679ede
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenomraid View Post
    Im looking for most amazing ww2 videos... close urban fights,dog fights and other... if you hawe this kind of stuff share with me!
    this is one of my favorite video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqH_WEqNK5Y
    This clip shows one thing; war is some serious business! Imagine the cameraman - armed with a camera - with plenty of enemy soldiers around. That is bravery!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laconia View Post
    This clip shows one thing; war is some serious business! Imagine the cameraman - armed with a camera - with plenty of enemy soldiers around. That is bravery!
    I totally agree with this one!
    Last edited by Procyon; 11-16-2009 at 01:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forager View Post
    "Platoon" was and is the biggest insult and most disrespectful presentation to American fighting men ever produced.
    It came out at a time when there was still much social turmoil and sensationalised the worst aspects of a very small group.
    For whatever reason, it was taken as gospel by many, and an accurate overall portrayal of Americans in Vietnam.

    Just sayin'

    The most effective clip for me is the destruction of the Panther in frontof the Cologne Cathedral.
    "Platoon" was written and directed by a Vietnam infantry vet, Oliver Stone. And I don't recall the Reagan years of 1986 as being filled with turmoil. I've personally talked to many vets that have either said it was dead-on, or who disputed parts but said generally it was pretty accurate...

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    I totally agree with this one!

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