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    Default Our army is full

    My son wants to join the Australian Army Reserve, as a rifleman.

    After doing all the recruitment steps and being ready to sign up, he was told a month ago that there wouldn't be any vacancies for riflemen for a year.

    There were a few other current vacancies for non-combat or combat support roles, which don't interest him. (Stupid little *****! I told him to get a job in the Pay Corps where he'd be warm; dry; safe; never have to do picquet duty; and be surrounded by government money which isn't all that well accounted for, but he knows better. )

    I am astonished that our Army is so blessed that it doesn't need one more rifleman for twelve months.

    Meanwhile the services are bleating about not being able to recruit people.

    Go figure.
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    Interesting...

    Is it the both the Reserve and active force that is full up or did they give him options to go into the full time Army?

    Are their vacancies in the other reserve branches? For instance, I have no idea about the Royal Australian Air Force, but I've begun exploring possibly joining up with the US Air National Guard or USAF Reserve as ground combat Security Policemen, with duties not unlike being in the infantry. Except you sleep in a nice warm bed and have mostly excellent garrison facilities over the field as one is defending a nice comfortable air base that is paved and has showers, instead of some muddy hill in tents...

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    Wow, that's the first time I've ever heard of an army not wanting a new recruit!

    Is the Australian Army in so few missions at the moment? Or could it be that the current recession lead to a boom in enlistments?
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    I think that is a sign of the times, my son was turned down from the Marines, Air force and Army because of his tattoos. The navy would take him but the didn't have the job he wanted available. As things get tougher in the economy more people move to the military and it shows..they are not hurting for new recruits to the basic fields.
    The military is a great place to start your career and people know that. I joined the Air force in 1977 as a crash fire fighter with a high school ,diploma..and today I make more than twice what my wife does and she has a college degree.
    Tell your son to wait the year or take the job that will train him in heavy equipment..those guys make good money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Interesting...

    Is it the both the Reserve and active force that is full up or did they give him options to go into the full time Army?
    I don't know if the regular army is full, but he wasn't offered that as an alternative

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Are their vacancies in the other reserve branches?
    I don't know, but my son's not interested in them. He might share my view that at least when you get shot in the army you don't have to contend with the fresh problem of being shipwrecked or hitting the ground from 30,000 feet as well as being wounded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    For instance, I have no idea about the Royal Australian Air Force, but I've begun exploring possibly joining up with the US Air National Guard or USAF Reserve as ground combat Security Policemen, with duties not unlike being in the infantry. Except you sleep in a nice warm bed and have mostly excellent garrison facilities over the field as one is defending a nice comfortable air base that is paved and has showers, instead of some muddy hill in tents...
    Sounds quite civilized. Apart from the air base being a nice big juicy target and being shelled and bombed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    Is the Australian Army in so few missions at the moment? Or could it be that the current recession lead to a boom in enlistments?
    It could be the recession, but it might have something to do with the Reserve being integrated into the regular army and having a fixed establishment which has been reached in some corps.

    We're not short of regular army deployments at the moment, from various peacekeeping type operations to combat and other forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. At the risk of sounding callous, two vacanices have come up in Afghanistan in the past couple of weeks, but they'll be filled from the regular army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike M. View Post
    Tell your son to wait the year or take the job that will train him in heavy equipment..those guys make good money.
    He was offered a combat engineer position, which was the nearest thing to a combat role, but he's an apprentice carpenter and doesn't feel like joining the Reserve to do pretty much what he's doing 5 to 7 days every week.

    I have a sneaking suspicion that the recruiters can get any number of riflemen but not too many trade trained people, so they structured things to encourage him to join as a combat engineer. The Reserve is clearly keen to get trade trained people as it has a very good apprentice training scheme which puts reserve soldiers with civilian employers. And, believe it or not, they're currently looking for apprentice carpenters. http://www.defencereserves.com/aspx/...ip_Scheme.aspx Or maybe I'm just too cynical about armed service recruiters, who as we all know have always been honest beyond reproach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike M. View Post
    my son was turned down from the Marines, Air force and Army because of his tattoos.

    Why do tattoos disqualify him? Location on body; size of tattoo; or type of tattoo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    Why do tattoos disqualify him? Location on body; size of tattoo; or type of tattoo?

    Tattoos have become very popular here in the States with the younger generation, anything racist or gang related isn't tolerated. In my sons case..it was quantity of tats..even though I asked him not to do it, he went and got one arm sleeved, from the wrist to the shoulder. why should he listen to his old man..what do I know.
    Here in Los Angeles..the younger fire fighters and policemen were getting lots of tats so now LAFD and LAPD have a tattoo policy with new recruits. The older guys if they have them now have to wear long sleeves all year long.
    Another popular thing to do now here with the younger bucks..is shaving your head..don't ask me why, I guess it looks cool or makes you look tough..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike M. View Post
    Tattoos have become very popular here in the States with the younger generation,
    Same here.

    Not just the kids.

    Nothing looks tackier than some fat sheila in her fifties or sixties with a fresh tattoo, usually on the tit, neck, shoulder or above the bum, where the top of her thong sits on a ridge of wobbly flesh.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike M. View Post
    why should he listen to his old man..what do I know.
    Why should you be any luckier than the rest of us ignorant dads?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike M. View Post
    Another popular thing to do now here with the younger bucks..is shaving your head..don't ask me why, I guess it looks cool or makes you look tough..
    That and those near shaved military cuts favoured by US cops are popular here with a lot of our cops. Just makes them look like wannabes to me, not that I'm going to say that when some uniformed bonedome pulls me up at a booze bus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post

    Nothing looks tackier than some fat sheila in her fifties or sixties with a fresh tattoo, usually on the tit, neck, shoulder or above the bum, where the top of her thong sits on a ridge of wobbly flesh.
    That mental image has completely put me off my breakfast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mike M.
    why should he listen to his old man..what do I know.
    Why should you be any luckier than the rest of us ignorant dads?
    Aw, jeez, you guys are coughing dust on me!

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    I know in the U.S. Army recruiters can get bonuses for filling positions that are in higher demand so perhaps that is why they are trying to push him towards another MOS. Just a thought because they tried that with me but they won't go so far as to lose a recruit just because they can't get him into the position they want to fill.

    Something else to think about, Combat Engineers do build lots of things but they are also the ones tasked with blowing up bridges and usually are the lucky ones that get to clear mine fields. (Assuming that Combat Engineers fill the same niche in the in the Australian Army as they do in the U.S. Army) It may not be a nice cushy job by any means but it will be quite different than what he is doing as a carpenter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie Devil View Post
    Something else to think about, Combat Engineers do build lots of things but they are also the ones tasked with blowing up bridges and usually are the lucky ones that get to clear mine fields. (Assuming that Combat Engineers fill the same niche in the in the Australian Army as they do in the U.S. Army) It may not be a nice cushy job by any means but it will be quite different than what he is doing as a carpenter.
    Actually, he did give it a bit of serious thought when he found out about blowing things up, which all well-balanced blokes always enjoy , but he wants to be a grunt for some crazy reason (which, admittedly, so did I at his age, but I opted for cavalry as I've never seen the point of walking when you can ride, and you can carry so many more items of comfort on a vehicle.).

    To encourage him towards cavalry, or anything not a grunt, I offered to dig him a weapon pit in the back yard so he could sleep, eat, piss and shit in it for a week while I hosed him and his pit for a couple of hours in every twelve hours and fed him on Spam and crackers with no water apart from what was in the pit to see how he liked being a grunt. But he assured me that the modern army and modern warfare are different. True, perhaps, but not for commandos in some surveillance or far forward positions, and my son wants to be a commando. (I thought about it at his age, but the one mile or whatever it was swim in the ocean as one of the qualifying tests put me off, as I have an aversion to drowning.)

    What was that that mike m said about what would his dad know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    To encourage him towards cavalry, or anything not a grunt, I offered to dig him a weapon pit in the back yard so he could sleep, eat, piss and shit in it for a week while I hosed him and his pit for a couple of hours in every twelve hours and fed him on Spam and crackers with no water apart from what was in the pit to see how he liked being a grunt. But he assured me that the modern army and modern warfare are different.
    It is very different at the moment, mainly because most modern armies are in occupying missions, which means they won't have to spend too much time in foxholes and more in occupied buildings, transport vehicles and base camp.
    It also means that you don't have a visible, regular enemy to fight, which can be very psychologically taxing.
    But at the same time this means that in a regular firefight, the modern soldier has a huge advantage over his enemy, other than in Vietnam, for example.
    In Vietnam it was Soldier with modern machine gun and air support against soldier with less modern machine gun and without air support.
    Now it is soldier with highly modern machine gun, air, artillery, gunship, UAV and helicopter support against militia with old machine gun (or partially even semi/bolt action).

    In many ways the modern soldier has turned from the main fighting force to a force on the ground who fights relatively little and rather calls in the big toys. Why do you think there's so few casualties compared to Vietnam, Korea, etc?

    PS: Most modern armies are in very hot desert climates at the moment, so instead of showering him in rain you should build him a custom 'hat' with 3 UV lights constantly shining down on him. That would probably be more like it.

    True, perhaps, but not for commandos in some surveillance or far forward positions, and my son wants to be a commando. (I thought about it at his age, but the one mile or whatever it was swim in the ocean as one of the qualifying tests put me off, as I have an aversion to drowning.)
    That sounds more like Frogmen to me? I read about the German ones, and the shit they have to be able to do in/under water is just amazing. I'd probably drown during the first tryouts...
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