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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    No need to be sorry, I really wasnt sure i had mentioned that,,, Senior moment ..
    Senior moment is the gentle term. Realists call them CRAFT moments (Can't Remember A ****ing Thing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by forager View Post
    I worked with CIDG and we had few resources of that kind.
    What's CIDG?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    It was definitely and Owen IIRC...
    And here, at about 3:33 mins:secs, is what looks very much like an Owen gun in (Commonwealth Film Unit propaganda / morale boosting / historical / whatever) film of Australians in Vietnam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pUNk...eature=related

    I love the way a bit after that scene how Australian artillery is dropped into a bare field in supposeldy hot support action by the US Chinooks and then the artillery is seen, supposedly moments later, doing fire plots in an established camp. Boy, could the Aussies perform miracles in moments!

    I am very fond of the comment about the American general refusing to accept the change of name of the 4/19 Prince of Wales Light Horse (in which I served) to 1 APC etc by insisting that that they "lend tone to his outfit" and then referring them as the King George III Light (or, even better, White - I can't be sure) Horse. (I assume this was a delightfully ironic reference to the King who caused and lost the American War of Independence, or maybe the American general thought he had promoted the unit. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    ...the American general refusing to accept the change of name of the 4/19 Prince of Wales Light Horse ... and then referring them as the King George III Light (or, even better, White - I can't be sure) Horse. (I assume this was a delightfully ironic reference to the King who caused and lost the American War of Independence, or maybe the American general thought he had promoted the unit. )
    OMG! LOL! Did he go on to advise George W. Bush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    What's CIDG?
    I think it may mean Civilian Irregular Defence Group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    It was definitely and Owen IIRC...
    More on the Owen in Vietnam.

    Only had a short life in Vietnam. They were carried by Platoon Commanders, Forward Scouts and Stretcher Bearers among others. They remained with us until October 1966. There were no real problems with the weapon; it was the ammunition that failed. I think there were several attempts to prove that the gun/ammo was no longer suitable and should be replaced with many more 5.56 weapons. Success finally came when the Armourers provided copies of a formal instruction that the weapons were not to be test fired with any ammo older than 1954. The only rounds that the Battalion could get for operations were made in the early 1940's. Bye-bye OMC's, hello AR 16's.
    My bold http://www.5rar.asn.au/narrative/memoirs.htm


    The Owen wasn't the only WWII weapon to serve with the Australians in Vietnam.

    The move into Nui Dat, part of Operation Hardihood, saw us picking up all of our faithful weapons and walking into the rubber trees. It was here that I became aware that one of the Company Quarter Master Sergeants (CQMS), Lofty Cunningham from Support Company, had brought along an old friend of his from a previous affair (or marriage, I'm not quite sure.) Yes, Lofty decided that we needed at least one .303 Short Magazine Lee Enfield (SMLE) that he had used in Korea. I told him we could look after it provided he had the ammunition. So unknowingly we became the last Infantry Battalion to carry Owen Sub Machine Carbines and .303 SMLE rifles into war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    My recollection of Australian ammunition in the Vietnam era is that there weren't any clips for SLR mags. I can't recall anything like the SMLE charger for an SLR mag. My recollection is that we had to feed each round into the mag by hand. So we had to carry weight of the mags as well as the load rather than being able to carry lighter chargers to insert in a mag in action.
    Hah!

    My memory proves that sustained use of alcohol preserves the brain just fine!

    It must suck to be a teetotaller!

    The greatest weakness of the SLR was that the ammunition was heavy and that, in very bad times, the re-supply was by ammo packed in boxes and there was no quick way of loading them into a magazine. During the battle of Long Tan, all the 5 RAR Armourers were on the helipad loading 15 rounds into extra magazines that were then pushed out of a helicopter into the D Company 6 RAR site. The original FN version had a bridge over the body that allowed for magazine filling from rounds held in clips. The Australian made version did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun*

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun*
    My recollection of Australian ammunition in the Vietnam era is that there weren't any clips for SLR mags. I can't recall anything like the SMLE charger for an SLR mag. My recollection is that we had to feed each round into the mag by hand. So we had to carry weight of the mags as well as the load rather than being able to carry lighter chargers to insert in a mag in action.
    Hah!

    My memory proves that sustained use of alcohol preserves the brain just fine!

    It must suck to be a teetotaller!

    The greatest weakness of the SLR was that the ammunition was heavy and that, in very bad times, the re-supply was by ammo packed in boxes and there was no quick way of loading them into a magazine. During the battle of Long Tan, all the 5 RAR Armourers were on the helipad loading 15 rounds into extra magazines that were then pushed out of a helicopter into the D Company 6 RAR site. The original FN version had a bridge over the body that allowed for magazine filling from rounds held in clips. The Australian made version did not.
    http://www.5rar.asn.au/narrative/memoirs.htm
    Sorry to say this pal but perhaps you should have a word with 'er indoors - I think she's been putting some alcohol-free liquid, (eg Fosters,) in your VB bottles !

    There was indeed an Aussie guide for the five rd chargers, made of steel and coated with a proprietary material called Nylon 11, though I don't think six charger guides equals the Remington rimfire...
    The coating was slick in order to expedite loading and non-reflective.

    I'd imagine that the mags at Long Tan were pre-loaded at the HLS mainly to ensure the Diggers didn't have to charge their own while in contact, and that the mags, (SLR mags being more robust than those of the FAL,) would protect the rds which otherwise might get damaged in the free drop/helicast.

    The bandolier below is Aussie, marked: AUST/ MKI CPI N 6/67 the year after Long Tan.
    You'll find it here.
    However the charger guide looks more like the Brit one than the Australian guides I've seen, although that's not to say that other models weren't in use.
    Just not at your unit.

    If I've got any photos of the Aussie ones I'll get them scanned in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuts View Post
    Just not at your unit.
    Given that we did our M113 drills out of trucks and Land Rovers, my unit's few M113s being reserved for more important tasks (and more important people) that's entirely possible.

    It's also possible that our leadership thought that chargers were too technologically challenging for us.
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    Not for nothing were M113's at times called "Prayer Wagons" . . . am told NZ commissioned type august persons tended to reserve the APCs for officers to use . . . resulting in said "Prayers" that charlie had managed to line up his sights on one that was occupied by the aforementioned august personage(s).

    The other application for the term "Prayer Wagon" being that one did not have a chance of surviving the experience if one's APC were hit by an rpg: i.e."Not a Prayer".

    I don't know that any Kiwi APCs were actually knocked out while so-occupied though.

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