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    Report: Most-wanted Nazi died in 1992
    Documents surface showing that concentration camp doctor died in Cairo

    The Associated Press
    updated 6:05 p.m. ET, Wed., Feb. 4, 2009

    BERLIN - Documents have surfaced in Egypt showing the world's most-wanted Nazi war criminal, concentration camp doctor Aribert Heim, died in Cairo in 1992, Germany's ZDF television and The New York Times reported Wednesday.

    The report said Heim was living under a pseudonym and had converted to Islam by the time of his death from intestinal cancer.

    ZDF said that in a joint effort with the New York Times, it located a passport, application for a residence permit, bank slips, personal letters and medical papers — in all more than 100 documents — left behind by Heim in a briefcase in the hotel room where he lived under the name Tarek Hussein Farid.

    ZDF quoted Heim's son Ruediger Heim as confirming the pseudonym as his father's assumed name and the documents as belonging to him. Heim said he visited his father regularly in Cairo and had taken care of him after an operation related to his cancer in 1990.

    Simon Wiesenthal Center head Nazi hunter Efraim Zuroff said he has not seen the documents and that while it seems that there is "definitely a strong possibility" they point to Heim's death in Cairo 16 years ago, they need to be examined by experts.

    If it turns out to be true, however, he said that "the German police have a very important investigation on their hands in terms of prosecuting people who helped Aribert Heim escape justice."

    He pointed out that Ruediger Heim has previously said that the only contact he had since his father went into hiding in 1962 were two notes that appeared in his family's mailbox, and that he had no idea if he was alive or dead.

    Son was lying?
    "Ruediger has been lying," Zuroff told The Associated Press in an interview from Jerusalem. "Either he is lying now or he was lying before, and he has a vested interest in this so anything he says has to be taken with a certain amount of skepticism and suspicion — and the most important thing is missing: the body. There's no grave, there's no corpse, there's no DNA tests."

    Ruediger Heim could not be immediately be reached for comment.

    ZDF reported that Heim was buried in a cemetery for the poor in Cairo, where graves are reused after several years "so that the chance of finding remains is unlikely."

    Born June 28, 1914 in Radkersburg, Austria, Heim joined the local Nazi party in 1935, three years before Austria was bloodlessly annexed by Germany.

    He later joined the Waffen SS and was assigned to Mauthausen, a concentration camp near Linz, Austria, as a camp doctor in October and November 1941.

    While there, witnesses told investigators, he worked closely with SS pharmacist Erich Wasicky on such gruesome experiments as injecting various solutions into Jewish prisoners' hearts to see which killed them the fastest.

    In 1961, German authorities were alerted that Heim was living in Baden-Baden and began an investigation, but when they finally went to arrest him in September 1962, they just missed him — he apparently had been tipped off.

    Heim would be 94 today if still alive.

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    It's obvious that it frustrates the Nazi Hunters that their most wanted had actually managed to die 'peacefully' without ever getting detected.
    But is it still legally possible to charge the son/other aides? I know there is no statue of limitations on murder (duh), but how long is the statue of limitations on helping him avoid detection after the fact?
    The Wiesenthal and Zaroff guys sound like they just want to see some heads rolling now...
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    Default Re: High Level Nazi, Heim, Died in Egypt in 1992

    German Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) didn't stop the search yet though. Means the 130000 Euro of reward are still available.
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    I don't know... as the article said, the guy would have to be 94 - that's ancient! Why do people seem to be so reluctant to believe he died? He's a Nazi, but that doesn't make him immune to old age. As monstrous as he was, he was still only a human.
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    True Schuultz, people still think Hitler is alive!!

    You got to wonder how he escaped punishment and lived to the ripe old age of 94. You got to feel for his son to a certain extent, he was protecting his father. Sounds like the authorities have a huge egg on their face and are looking to blame others.

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    You got a little mistake there, Centurion, he would be 94 if he still lived today. According to the article, he already died in 1992, that would mean he died at 77, if my math doesn't fail me.

    And people who believe that Hitler still lives today are either fanatics who secretly wish he did, or paranoids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    And people who believe that Hitler still lives today are either fanatics who secretly wish he did, or paranoids.
    Well,...
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    BTW, the last alleged sighting of Heim was in July 2008 in Argentina...
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    Default Re: High Level Nazi, Heim, Died in Egypt in 1992

    Heim's body is not (yet) located - without the body there will always be speculations, like "he faked his own death".

    And this is not the first time Heim is claimed to be dead. For example: (airforce colonel) Danny Baz claimed that Heim was killed by a Jewish death squad in 1982 on an island off the Californian coast.
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    lol @ FTG

    And of course it's always possible he faked his death. But with 94 (or 77 as the son claims), it is very well possible he really died!
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    Default Re: High Level Nazi, Heim, Died in Egypt in 1992

    I hope the **** injected Windex into himself and died painfully...

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    Default Re: High Level Nazi, Heim, Died in Egypt in 1992

    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    it is very well possible he really died!
    Considering that they found his passport and other private documents, it really looks like he died.

    But I'm afraid that doesn't stop the vague stories, finding body would be a nice closure. Then again, finding Martin Bormann's body in Berlin didn't really prevent some people for "claiming/dreaming" that he got away (and that the body was just returned to Berlin after his death to fool nazi hunters, jeez). Facts are nice, but what-ifs are sweeter ;-)

    There's always the problem: How much can you trust relatives of the nazi refugees? Mengele's relatives explained year after year that they didn't have contact with him, or that he was dead. Eichmann's friend told that he buried Eichmann after the war. So I understand if the Nazi hunters are not happy with couple of papers and son's story.
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    Default Re: High Level Nazi, Heim, Died in Egypt in 1992

    True.
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    Default Re: High Level Nazi, Heim, Died in Egypt in 1992

    I feel really really sorry for the Hunters, they must go through lots of shit, and pow, the Nazis die of old age.

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