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    Hi to everyone.
    I found out an intereting article in Wiki about Russian pilot, who was shoted down in 1944, was imprisoned by Germans, have been sent to Germany and ....fly back to Russian on Henkel 111.
    The story is real , the man's name Mikhail Devyataev.
    Here is the introduction.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Devyatayev
    Escape
    Devyataev managed to convince the other nine prisoners in his work gang that he could fly them to freedom. The men chose a time when the guard dogs would be taken away for training to seize their chance.

    In the early morning of 8 February 1945, as the ten Soviet POWs, including Devyataev, were at work on the runway, one of the work gang, Ivan Krivonogov picked up a crowbar and killed their guard. Another prisoner, Peter Kutergun, quickly stripped off the guard's uniform and slipped it on. The work gang, led by the "guard", managed to unobtrusively take over the camp commandant's He 111 H22 bomber and fly from the island. Devyataev piloted the aircraft. The Germans tried to intercept the bomber but without success. The aircraft was damaged by the Soviet air defences but managed to land in Soviet-held territory. The escapees provided important information about the German missile program, especially about the V-1 and V-2.

    The NKVD did not believe Devyataev's story, arguing that it was impossible for the prisoners to take over an airplane without cooperation from the Germans. Thus, Devyataev was suspected of being a German spy and sent to a penal military unit along with the other nine men. Of the escapees, five died in action over the following months. Devyataev himself spent the remainder of the war in prison
    Only in 1957 Mikhail was reabilitated and has become the Hero of SU.

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    Default Re: Man who has stolen the Heinkel 111

    Wow....that is very interesting.
    Are there any other similar stories?

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    Impressive. But how did they manage to overcome the guards of the airplane and shake off the German fighters?

    And there was really only one guard for the guys, who even stood close enough to be surprised by an attack with a crowbar? Pretty dumb on his part...
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    Default Re: Man who has stolen the Heinkel 111

    How could he manage to fly a German plane? Do different planes from different countries have similar "controls"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caboliver View Post
    Do different planes from different countries have similar "controls"?
    No.

    Soviet planes had everything on the far left.

    German planes had everything on the far right.

    Vichy planes had everything close to the far right, but this could change under pressure.

    Italian planes had them where they had style.

    British planes had them in the middle.

    The Americans just put them where they wanted them.
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    A rational army would run away.
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    I don't know much about operating planes and English is not my first language. I asked if it's hard to fly a German plane if you have only been trained with soviets ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caboliver View Post
    I don't know much about operating planes and English is not my first language. I asked if it's hard to fly a German plane if you have only been trained with soviets ones.
    Mate, I'm sorry.

    I was having a bit of fun in responding to your post.

    If I knew you weren't a natural English speaker I wouldn't have.
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    A rational army would run away.
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    That's why I have put the word controls in these little thingies ""
    What's a better word to call it? Operating system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    No.

    Soviet planes had everything on the far left.

    German planes had everything on the far right.

    Vichy planes had everything close to the far right, but this could change under pressure.

    Italian planes had them where they had style.

    British planes had them in the middle.

    The Americans just put them where they wanted them.
    Hahaha, I actually thought you were serious until I got to Vichy...
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    Default Re: Man who has stolen the Heinkel 111

    I'm a bit slow. It was the Italians that tipped me off.

    As for the escape. Desperate moments result in fantastic things. If Devyataev had completed training in multi engine aircraft then he probablly could have got the plane aloft. Avoiding the German fighters would have depended on daylight, clouds, route, altitude, German air defense coordination, so many things to happen right or wrong. Devyataev may also have had the opportunity to observe the aircraft in operation, or perhaps look it over if he were assigned to clean it.
    Last edited by Carl Schwamberger; 01-18-2009 at 09:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    No.

    Soviet planes had everything on the far left.

    German planes had everything on the far right.

    Vichy planes had everything close to the far right, but this could change under pressure.

    Italian planes had them where they had style.

    British planes had them in the middle.

    The Americans just put them where they wanted them.
    Hahaha, I actually thought you were serious until I got to Vichy...
    Ah ha ha ha.
    He laways is ...damn serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    Impressive. But how did they manage to overcome the guards of the airplane and shake off the German fighters?
    The fighters were actualy send to interrupt the "Lonely Henkel". But becouse the weather was cloudy , Devyataev with felows were sucesfull to escape.
    Besides it was in Febriary of 1945- the FrontLine wasn't far from his camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caboliver View Post
    How could he manage to fly a German plane? Do different planes from different countries have similar "controls"?
    It's very true question mr Caboliver.
    And it was the first question of NKVD to Devyataev
    But fact is fact- man has done it.
    Becouse there were no OTHER pilots in his team.
    Mikhail was an experienced fighter-pilot.
    BTW He told - he wasn't first russian pilot who tried to drive away the German plaine. One has tryed to do it- but has crushed during the taking off.

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    Default Re: Man who has stolen the Heinkel 111

    I suppose the fundamentals of the plane would be relatively easy to find out. Other things he would have had to do Trial & Error.

    But who knows, maybe there was an Operator's Manual in the glove department
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    Default Re: Man who has stolen the Heinkel 111

    I think if he figured out the controls and was able to securely board the aircraft, it would have been actually difficult for the Luftwaffe to intercept him. By the time they got planes scrambled he may well have been out of intercept range...

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