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    Default Wounds during the films .

    I dont think i could post this somewhere else . I hope that somebody has medical knowledge . Yesterday i saw the Black Hawk Down and after a ranger platoon arrives at crash site number two one guy gets wounded in femoral artery (i think this is how it is spell) and they open his pants in order to see the wound the blood comes out like a fountain . Could this really happen ???


    P.S. I asked a friend of mine who is in medicine school but he didn't know
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    Quote Originally Posted by kallinikosdrama1992 View Post
    I dont think i could post this somewhere else . I hope that somebody has medical knowledge . Yesterday i saw the Black Hawk Down and after a ranger platoon arrives at crash site number two one guy gets wounded in femoral artery (i think this is how it is spell) and they open his pants in order to see the wound the blood comes out like a fountain . Could this really happen ???
    I haven't seen that scene so I don't know how big the spurt was but, yes, a femoral artery spurt can go several feet (or a metre or so, maybe more).

    The femoral artery is a major artery supplying the largest muscle groups in the body, being in the leg, so it carries a large volume of blood.

    Every minute the heart can pump a quantity of blood through it roughly equivalent to the total volume of blood in the body.

    Arterial blood is under pump pressure the whole time.

    Put all those factors together and severing a femoral artery has the potential to drain the body of blood in a minute or so.

    If the artery is not severed and the wound is not fully open to allow drainage, it will take longer to drain the body of blood. The time will be proportionate to the size of the hole in the artery.

    The arterial spurt will probably be greater the smaller the hole. Think of a water hose and how its spurt increases if you put your finger over the open end to reduce the size of the hole for the water under pressure to escape.

    Apart from severing the aorta, severing a femoral artery (or maybe a carotid artery as the brain and head have a huge demand for blood as well) is probably the quickest way to bleed someone to death.

    Which is one reason why idiots who say police should shoot people in the leg to avoid putting the target's life at risk have no idea what they are talking about.

    On the positive side, compressing a femoral artery wound by simply placing your hand over it and pressing down will often stem the blood loss sufficiently to enable the patient to survive until medical treatment arrives.

    (This is basic medical and first aid knowledge. If your medical student mate is anywhere past the first year of his course, scratch him off your list of doctors to see if you have a femoral artery wound. )
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    Just remembered seeing a film ages ago about a diver who had his leg severed by a shark and, as one now expects, it's on youtube.

    Note the huge volume of blood expelled from the completely severed artery after he's laid down. It would have been a spurt rather than a gush if he'd had a smaller wound which didn't sever the artery, or which left tissue around a severed artery to prevent free drainage

    DO NOT WATCH THIS IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE UPSET BY SEEING A MAN WHO HAS JUST HAD HIS LEG BITTEN OFF BY A SHARK.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Ue8HrB4kw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    The femoral artery is a major artery supplying the largest muscle groups in the body, being in the leg, so it carries a large volume of blood.Every minute the heart can pump a quantity of blood through it roughly equivalent to the total volume of blood in the body.

    I think it pumps 24-30 litres of blood . I dont know if it is right but i think i had read this and thanks for the info


    [/QUOTE](This is basic medical and first aid knowledge. If your medical student mate is anywhere past the first year of his course, scratch him off your list of doctors to see if you have a femoral artery wound. )[/QUOTE]


    Thanks for the tip RS but it is his first year , what's why he doesn't know that
    , i hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    Note the huge volume of blood expelled from the completely severed artery after he's laid down. It would have been a spurt rather than a gush if he'd had a smaller wound which didn't sever the artery, or which left tissue around a severed artery to prevent free drainage

    DO NOT WATCH THIS IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE UPSET BY SEEING A MAN WHO HAS JUST HAD HIS LEG BITTEN OFF BY A SHARK.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Ue8HrB4kw

    Well i am not upset but jesus christ he lost 6,5 pounds of blood . That's a really big amount right ??? 3 kilograms or a little less from what i know
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    Quote Originally Posted by kallinikosdrama1992 View Post
    Well i am not upset but jesus christ he lost 6,5 pounds of blood . That's a really big amount right ??? 3 kilograms or a little less from what i know
    It was pints (imperial volume measure), not pounds (imperial weight measure).

    An imperial (as distinct from US) pint is about 570ml.
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    P.S. An adult human body holds about 8 imperial or 10 US pints.

    Perhaps the diver was talking in US pints as it seems unlikely that he could survive after losing 6.5 imperial pints out of 8 pints, but I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kallinikosdrama1992 View Post
    Could this really happen ???
    Absolutely. I was in EMT school 2 years ago, and on St. Patricks day I was doing my clinicals when the third call of the day was for a triple gun shot wound. One of the wounds had severed the femoral artery, and I have never ever in my life seen that much blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    IWhich is one reason why idiots who say police should shoot people in the leg to avoid putting the target's life at risk have no idea what they are talking about.
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    The Dutch police actually TRAIN to do this! First it's a very difficult shot, particularly at night, so the likelihood of missing is very high, putting the public at risk (which is exacerbated by the ridiculous choice of solid brass hollowpoint bullet), and the standard of shooting of most policemen is very, very poor.

    When I heard a policeman explaining this to me, my jaw dropped.
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    Default Re: Wounds during the films .

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    It was pints (imperial volume measure), not pounds (imperial weight measure).

    An imperial (as distinct from US) pint is about 570ml.
    RS thanks thanks for correcting . But it was really sound like pound .

    P.S. Probably i had a dose of luck when i gave exams for English
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    P.S. An adult human body holds about 8 imperial or 10 US pints.

    Perhaps the diver was talking in US pints as it seems unlikely that he could survive after losing 6.5 imperial pints out of 8 pints, but I don't know.

    Yeah it sounds crazy . But who knows ... Strange things happen ....
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    Well, if they managed to get him new blood in time, I don't see how it should be impossible for him to survive. I'd worry a lot more about infections in the wound... I have no idea how that works, but would the salt in the salt water have helped clean the wound (though also making it more painful), or would the bacteria, etc, in the Oceanic water still infect the wound?
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    A friend once cut his wrist badly and he came into my house to get help. From the point he walked in the ceilings were covered in blood. He held his wrist upright and the blood spurted like a fountain from the wound.

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    I dont what is about rambo movies but when he gets wounded it always seems unrealistic




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    Quote Originally Posted by Moreheaddriller View Post
    I dont what is about rambo movies but when he gets wounded it always seems unrealistic
    As distinct from the convincing realism in the rest of a Rambo movie?

    Or most other movies, such as someone shot only in the 'shoulder', which isn't a serious wound?

    Anatomically, many cinematic 'shoulder' wounds would mean a lung shot and a sucking wound, which is in fact a very serious wound and quite capable of causing death if not quickly and competently treated.

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