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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    When you say 'gone down', are you referring to:

    (a) Being 'sent down', in the sense of being sentenced to a term of imprisonment, or
    (b) 'Going down' in the sense of gobbling as the price of acquiring, or creating, some porn?

    Given the recent history of the priesthood, one cannot assume which is more likely.
    Option A, apparently he had 400+ images on his pc. Sentanced for 8 months, put on the sex offender's register and defrocked.

    Shame really as he was a good priest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    Option A, apparently he had 400+ images on his pc.
    Pathetic!

    The average convicted paedophile down here has somewhere between about fifteen thousand and several hundred thousand images.

    Your bloke must have been on dial up internet!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    Shame really as he was a good priest.
    I'm going to drift this way off topic, but one of the things that most people fail to grasp when reactively condemning the latest selectively-presented tabloid monster is that most people, no matter how bad the act they have done, are not all bad all the time.

    A simple if unpleasant example is a nasty piece of work and a pillar of the community I acted for many years ago, who subjected his daughter to appalling acts between the ages of about 8 and 14, and who was a bank manager who was a great boss and who demonstrated great courage in tackling an armed bank robber. His courageous action doesn't begin to atone for what he did to his daughter, but if you didn't know about that you'd admire him for his courage and if you knew about his public persona you'd think he was a model citizen.

    Back to the topic, what pisses me off is that he didn't even go to gaol. Personally, I would have improved the gene pool by shooting the **** dead.

    I think that there are some people whose acts are so repetitive or prolonged or outrageous that they forfeit the right to live among the rest of us, because they are too much of a danger to the rest of us. Whether they should be subject to capital punishment or imprisonment for life is a different issue.

    But one of the things that really pisses me off is when the law is changed long after the crime in softer times so that people who were given a life sentence, which meant life, are released after 12 or 15 or 20 years at worst for appalling crimes.
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    Well currently in UK most convincted felons only do half their sentance if they're a good boy. According to the most recent figures 0.13% of the British population reside at Her Majesty's pleasure which I think equates to 84,500 cons (assuming the British population is 65 million).

    I find it ridiculous that cons can get away with only doing half the time due to prison overcrowding and chronic underinvestment. What really annoys me is that due to that accursed bit of EU bureaucracy which was foisted upon us - the f**king European Court of Human Rights - the cons now are entitled(!) to telly's in their cells, internet access and other nice home comforts taking more money away from the Prison budget. And now they're starting to privatise prisons I can only see it getting worse.
    "There is no country on the face of the earth to which the principle of citizen-soldiership is so well adapted as our own, for the freedom possessed by Britons is of so general and real a character as to cause the humblest in the land to feel deeply the neccessity of preserving the safety and independence of the nation of which he is a part"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    Well currently in UK most convincted felons only do half their sentance if they're a good boy. According to the most recent figures 0.13% of the British population reside at Her Majesty's pleasure which I think equates to 84,500 cons (assuming the British population is 65 million).
    When I started practising back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, the standard was one third off the sentence for good behaviour.

    The farces with this were that (a) it could be very difficult to behave well if targeted by other prisoners or prison officers and (b) conduct in prison is not a great indicator of conduct outside upon release.

    Regardless, since then we've had this 'truth in sentencing' bullshit which seems not to grasp the belief of the surviving relatives of the victim of brutal murders, rapes, etc that a decade or two in the slammer is not sufficient penalty for someone who deprived a ten or twenty year old of many more decades of life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    I find it ridiculous that cons can get away with only doing half the time due to prison overcrowding and chronic underinvestment. What really annoys me is that due to that accursed bit of EU bureaucracy which was foisted upon us - the f**king European Court of Human Rights - the cons now are entitled(!) to telly's in their cells, internet access and other nice home comforts taking more money away from the Prison budget.
    I don’t have a problem with prisoners having reasonable comforts in their cells, which includes television and radios nowadays, but internet raises obvious security concerns.

    The derprivation of liberty is sufficient punishment, as is the prison environment at the mercy of other prisoners and prison staff although that’s the reality but not part of the theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    And now they're starting to privatise prisons I can only see it getting worse.
    We’ve had privatised prisons here for a while, which I think is outrageous as the State should deal with its prisoners.

    http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2011/s3117003.htm
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    I completely agree with your commet on the privatising of prisons. It's a ludicrous idea as it's a captive market. Once the private firm have got the state bound into a contract they usually (in the case of the UK) turn round to the state and say 'we've suddenly discovered some hitherto unforseen costs and now you have to stump up for it plus some outrageous fee we've arbitarily decided to add for getting us to handle it'. What can the state do other than pay and watch more money being leeched from the Department of Justice budget when they would have been better off running it themselves.

    And further to that due to overcrowding they're now putting cons in open prisons (designed to help low category crime offenders and those near the end of their sentance transist into normal society). It is shameful that high category prisoners are being put in open prisons, and then surprise, suprise they escape!

    Personally I do have a problem with cons having telly's. Radios and books fair enough. But telly's are expensive and as far as i'm aware prisons don't get a waiver on TV licences. They're there to be punished not watch Jeremy Kyle and Trisha!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    Well, (thankfully) my old school priest never touched me, I must have been an ugly child.
    That or he saw a rugby match and didn't want to risk his neck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    But one of the things that really pisses me off is when the law is changed long after the crime in softer times so that people who were given a life sentence, which meant life, are released after 12 or 15 or 20 years at worst for appalling crimes.
    Not sure if this happens everywhere but here on occasion, the guilty party admits guilt and gets off with a lighter sentence, even serious crimes once guilt is admitted the sentences can be drasticly reduced. All i can think is it's down to saving the state time and money but come on for f**k sake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    They're there to be punished not watch Jeremy Kyle and Trisha!!!!!
    Now there's an idea, add in some old Kilroy Silk reruns.

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    A new entry, among the categoryes of people that really piss me off, after what happened last night, is the one that includes hackers and buggers like that...
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    Testify!!

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    Hallelujah brother!! Sing it from the mountain!!
    "There is no country on the face of the earth to which the principle of citizen-soldiership is so well adapted as our own, for the freedom possessed by Britons is of so general and real a character as to cause the humblest in the land to feel deeply the neccessity of preserving the safety and independence of the nation of which he is a part"

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    Quote Originally Posted by skorzeny57 View Post
    A new entry, among the categoryes of people that really piss me off, after what happened last night, is the one that includes hackers and buggers like that...
    Well done on the correct use of 'buggers'.
    "There is no country on the face of the earth to which the principle of citizen-soldiership is so well adapted as our own, for the freedom possessed by Britons is of so general and real a character as to cause the humblest in the land to feel deeply the neccessity of preserving the safety and independence of the nation of which he is a part"

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    Quote Originally Posted by downwithpeace View Post
    Not sure if this happens everywhere but here on occasion, the guilty party admits guilt and gets off with a lighter sentence, even serious crimes once guilt is admitted the sentences can be drasticly reduced. All i can think is it's down to saving the state time and money but come on for f**k sake.
    Saving the state time and money is a large part of it.

    But isn't it preferable to penalise, even at 50% of the going rate, a criminal who admits his or her crime than not be able to penalise one who successfully puts the state to trouble and expense in prosecuting a 'not guilty' plea?

    Here's a clear and concise summary of the considerations. http://www.cml.com.au/news/2011/03.html

    Here's the sort of stuff that judges and lawyers consider, in their language.
    http://www.judcom.nsw.gov.au/publica...a.html#p11-500
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    I completely agree with your commet on the privatising of prisons. It's a ludicrous idea as it's a captive market. Once the private firm have got the state bound into a contract they usually (in the case of the UK) turn round to the state and say 'we've suddenly discovered some hitherto unforseen costs and now you have to stump up for it plus some outrageous fee we've arbitarily decided to add for getting us to handle it'. What can the state do other than pay and watch more money being leeched from the Department of Justice budget when they would have been better off running it themselves.
    And how is this different to any other contract where private enterprise gets its teeth onto the incompetent yet bountiful public tit with its inexhaustible reservoir of taxpayer milk?

    Defence contracts; public transport contracts; and police computer contracts (to name only a few of countless) down here cost multiples of the original agreed cost; aren't delivered within even a few years of the agreed date, if they're delivered at all; and yet nobody is ever brought to account and nothing is ever done to recover the money from the bozos who don't perform their part of the contract.

    But if we want to see really magnificent examples of this, the American defence industry and in particular its aeroplane manufacturers are the all time experts in converting failure to perform their part of the contract into vast profits extracted from the American taxpayer and taxpayers in other nations, like mine, which sign up to buy these ethereal future marvels of aeronautical technology.

    And all of this is something else that seriously pisses me off, because if I **** up I get sued but these ****s get paid more for ****ing up and the longer they **** up the more they get ****ing paid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    Well done on the correct use of 'buggers'.
    Thanx, Iron Yeoman. I'm glad you noticed that. That has been the first time that i used that word. I had the feeling that it may be a good combination. Infact hackers is a sort of rhyme for buggers (or viceversa)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    Well currently in UK most convincted felons only do half their sentance if they're a good boy. According to the most recent figures 0.13% of the British population reside at Her Majesty's pleasure which I think equates to 84,500 cons (assuming the British population is 65 million).

    I find it ridiculous that cons can get away with only doing half the time due to prison overcrowding and chronic underinvestment. What really annoys me is that due to that accursed bit of EU bureaucracy which was foisted upon us - the f**king European Court of Human Rights - the cons now are entitled(!) to telly's in their cells, internet access and other nice home comforts taking more money away from the Prison budget. And now they're starting to privatise prisons I can only see it getting worse.
    If police officers can be unionized (and in the US they are) then I see no reason why prisons can't be privatised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdf27 View Post
    Money laundering regulations. People shifting large amounts of cash around who don't want to be identified (and in an era when bank accounts are pretty much universal, anyone trying to change large amounts of cash without a bank account most likely is doing so to remain anonymous) are very often doing it for nefarious purposes, frequently linked to organised crime or terrorism. To make life difficult for them, these regulations got introduced.


    Money laundering regulations again - if they want to build a case against you, they can use these log sheets to prove you have been shifting cash about.

    Economy - it essentially costs the same to move any type of banknote from one place to another, so the cost per dollar is lowest with the highest denomination notes. Hence the incentive to give you $100 notes rather than say $20 - it's 5 times cheaper for the bank.

    Geez. Just use a credit card.

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