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    Default Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    I found that link in Wiki.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downfall_(film)
    The film about last days of Hitler's surround in Bunker.
    I didn't watch this film yet.
    Is it worthwhile to watch?Has somebody seen?

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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    First I was thinking you were joking but then I realised you are living in Russia which would explain why you haven't heard of this fantastic movie.It's German and its original title is Der Untergang.It's the story of one of Hitler's secretary Traudl Junge and the last days of the Reich/Berlin.
    Highly recommended by moi.Very much at my top war movies list with "Zvezda"(Звезда) and "Idi i smotri"(Иди и смотри)

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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    Quote Originally Posted by Chevan View Post
    I found that link in Wiki.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downfall_(film)
    The film about last days of Hitler's surround in Bunker.
    I didn't watch this film yet.
    Is it worthwhile to watch?Has somebody seen?
    You'd probably also like the fact that the Russian soldiers are shown as quite respectful and civilized, and not as a plundering and raping mob.
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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    I feel in love with it last summer it has its sad parts in it but its a great film none the less




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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    Top Film.

    It pulls no punches, but is more drama than historically correct.

    Worth a watch.

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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    You'd probably also like the fact that the Russian soldiers are shown as quite respectful and civilized, and not as a plundering and raping mob.
    Excellent film. The Russian soldiers aren't really in there very long and seemed to be in a state of momentary awe...

    I was also curious as almost all German small arms are shown, but it seems that every other soldier is carrying the MP-44 Sturmgewehr and rifle might be a bit overrepresented?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Excellent film. The Russian soldiers aren't really in there very long and seemed to be in a state of momentary awe...

    I was also curious as almost all German small arms are shown, but it seems that every other soldier is carrying the MP-44 Sturmgewehr and rifle might be a bit overrepresented?
    Not sure ,in Mabire's "mourir a Berlin" and Trigg's "Hitler's gauls" it says that all soldiers (except Rostaing's 3rd Kompanie who had 3 Stg44 for 10 men) from the "Charlemagne "division were equipped with Stg 44 and Panzerfausts as well as an abundance of MG42's(no less than two per section).
    Last edited by kamehouse; 01-18-2009 at 09:58 AM. Reason: more info found

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    absolutely !! a very good film !!
    u gotta watch it dude !

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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    I wouldn't be too quick to judge the movie on that.
    I'd assume that the units defending Berlin would be high priority enough to be fully equipped with StG44s... But I also saw quite a couple of MP40s, especially when the SS soldier executes the "Deserters".
    The 98k's are only used by the Volkssturm guys, and they got massacred, which caused the commander who witnessed it to complain to Goebbels that if he had to force old men to fight, he should at least give them weaponry that works for Urban combat.
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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    Generally I'd say they did a very good job on the authenticity of weaponry, uniforms and equipment.
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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    Picture from the SS-Nordland taken in Berlin.
    Some attributes it to the Charlemagne but it's a mistake.Anyway as all can see,equipment wasn't an issue before the battle of Berlin.

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    I thought the guy that played Hitler did a good job. One thing I would have liked is if more had been shown of the Soviets. It seemed like the movie only looked at the German perspective and it would have been interesting to see more of what the Soviet soldiers were doing.

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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    Quote Originally Posted by Cojimar 1945 View Post
    It seemed like the movie only looked at the German perspective and it would have been interesting to see more of what the Soviet soldiers were doing.
    After all this is what the movie's all about: the incidents inside of the "Führerbunker" and Hitler's closer peripherals in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamethrowerguy View Post
    After all this is what the movie's all about: the incidents inside of the "Führerbunker" and Hitler's closer peripherals in general.
    It is based from the book of Hitler's secretary isn'it?

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    Default Re: Brlin.Downfall by Oliver Hirschbiegel

    Quote Originally Posted by kamehouse View Post
    It is based from the book of Hitler's secretary isn'it?
    Partially (Until the Final Hour: Hitler's Last Secretary). Mainly it's based on Joachim Fest's book "Der Untergang" (english version "Inside Hitler's Bunker. The Last Days of the Third Reich").
    Parts of an interview with the secretary in question ,Gertraud „Traudl“ Junge (1920-2002), was shown at the beginning and end of the movie.
    However it should be mentioned that Rochus Misch (Hitler's bodyguard, courier and phone operator) states in his book (Der letzte Zeuge: Ich war Hitlers Telefonist, Kurier und Leibwächter) that Mrs. Junge kind of "bloated" her own part in the whole story. The movie (and maybe her book as well, haven't read it yet) shows her as Hitler's favourite secretary. However Misch writes that she was actually more of a substitute for the case that one of the regular secretaries (Gerda Christian, Christa Schroeder and Johanna Wolf) was not available.
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