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    You partisan guys could start a Civil war though, go ahead! I don't live there, but the world of terrorists and Russian and Chinese push on the UN would be very greatful!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by steben View Post
    You partisan guys could start a Civil war though, go ahead!
    They had one about one and half centuries ago, which led to the election of a black President now.

    I doubt that another Civil War could advance matters much beyond that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    They had one about one and half centuries ago, which led to the election of a black President now.

    I doubt that another Civil War could advance matters much beyond that.
    good point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by steben View Post
    good point!
    I guess we'll have to wait a while for the first black Belgian prime minister, or for the Walloons and the Flemish to become non-partisan, LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by royal744 View Post
    I guess we'll have to wait a while for the first black Belgian prime minister,
    Of course, there aren't that many black fellow civilians over here to fill that gap, we missed the slavery era. Or our "colonial landmark" (appreciate the irony) Leopold II just kept them far away.
    What we do have is a growing staff of politicians with Turkish and Moroccan roots.
    And in case you missed it, our Prime Minister at the moment in in fact the son of Italian immigrants. There you go!
    And we have marriage for homosexuals of course.
    That will not happen shortly accross the Atlantic. Quite predictable
    Texas I see... will definitely be the last Mohican I guess.

    or for the Walloons and the Flemish to become non-partisan, LOL!
    yeah, bull's eye! but don't get confused. It is - despite the small country we are - much more complicated. We have our fair share of partisans, but it is not that 1 on 1 battle as it is in the US. It's more like 10 pitbulls in a pit. And in one way or another, the "spread" of pitbulls makes it damn soft living over here. Power of democracy works well. Even in Flanders alone, every envy politician keeps an eye on the other in such a egocentric way it becomes almost a beauty.
    Last edited by steben; 08-29-2013 at 02:58 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steben View Post
    Of course, there aren't that many black fellow civilians over here to fill that gap, we missed the slavery era. Or our "colonial landmark" (appreciate the irony) Leopold II just kept them far away.
    What we do have is a growing staff of politicians with Turkish and Moroccan roots.
    And in case you missed it, our Prime Minister at the moment in in fact the son of Italian immigrants. There you go!
    And we have marriage for homosexuals of course.
    That will not happen shortly accross the Atlantic. Quite predictable
    Texas I see... will definitely be the last Mohican I guess.



    yeah, bull's eye! but don't get confused. It is - despite the small country we are - much more complicated. We have our fair share of partisans, but it is not that 1 on 1 battle as it is in the US. It's more like 10 pitbulls in a pit. And in one way or another, the "spread" of pitbulls makes it damn soft living over here. Power of democracy works well. Even in Flanders alone, every envy politician keeps an eye on the other in such a egocentric way it becomes almost a beauty.
    It has become rather vicious over here, Steben, ever since the conservatives woke up to fact that there is a fundamental generational and demographic shift taking place in this country and that there is literally nothing - read "very frustrating" - they can do about it short of facing reality. I must tell you, that I have a brother who lives in Belgium. When his Belgian wife gave birth to their first child, the mayor of the city made it a point to call attention to the fact that "another Flaamse kind" was added to the population. He could have just said "another child", but no, instead it had to be a Flemish one, LOL.

    We have not yet had an Italian-American president, but there has been at least one Italian-American candidate. On the other hand, we have had three Dutch presidents that I can recall and a number of Irish-Americans, including Barack Obama) and may very well soon add our first woman president (knock on wood). On the other hand, there have been a large number of idiots and morons who have contended for the office. You may guess as to who they are.

    "Mohicans" were a tribe made-up by James Fenimore Cooper and they were thousands of miles from Texas in the northeast, except the tribe didn't exist. Texas was Comanche country, along with Tejas and Caddo and a sprinkling of other tribes, including Apache. The Comanche (and some Apache) were fierce warriors and only the Germans in the Texas Hill Country north of San Antonio managed to conclude an actual peace treaty with them. The Comanche weren't a threat to anyone until the Spanish brought horses to the new world. After that they were a threat to everyone, like the Sioux on the Great Plains.

    There is a growing number of places - states - that allow homosexual marriage already over here and that number will continue to grow as the verkrampte generation of conservative old white guys disappear into the sunset. Their day is coming and there's nothing they can do about it. It may get ugly in the meantime, but c'est la vie.

    Incidentally, the general who led the Texicans to independence from the Mexicans - General Sam Houston - at San Jacinto was an honorary member of the Cherokee Nation. He became governor of the state. When the War Between the States began, he opposed Texas's Secession from the Union and resigned the governorship. He made a speech shortly after in Galveston predicting that the South would be crushed by the North. This made him no friends, but he was spot on.
    Last edited by royal744; 08-29-2013 at 05:20 PM.

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