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    2 more photos of the Tauchpanzer III, the color pic is of a tank crossing the river Bug in the Polish-Soviet border june 1941.




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    PzKpfw III Ausf G/H mit Schachtellaufwerk

    The german tongue breaking word "schachtellaufwerk" indicates that this small series of tanks had an interleaved roadwheel suspension. That teorically saved material ( the return rollers were deleted) and improve the tank speed over bad terrain.
    Some internal components of the tank were new, like panzer IV final drive and transmition.



    There are several sources wich asignated to this model the name "panzer III/IV" but that is incorrect, the pz III/IV was a chassis, not a tank, used in the Hummel, Nashorn, Versuchsflakwagen and some other prototipes.

    This variant is also know as "panzer III with FAMO suspension" wich is a bit more accurate because the interleaved wheels were in fact developed by the firm FAMO, but the tank was not manufactured by this factory.

    Between 20 to 25 tanks were manufactered between 1941-42, most of them remained in Germany for troop training, a small batch was send to the eastern front where it proved to have an excellent mobility but the short L42 gun was no more suitable for that teather of Operations.

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    Here you can see a PzKpfw III / Ausf. L [you see the pistol self-defense openings beside the storage box on the turret] behind a Tiger tank [note the barbed wire to the sides of the Tiger - i got some more pictures] at the Eastern Front.



    A Pz III / Ausf. M from the 11. PzRgt 6 at Kursk


    The same tank - the Pz III Flamm in real


    A Pz III / Ausf. L in Afrika


    Pz III / Ausf. D in Afrika




    A impact of a boys projectile at the commanders cuppola of a Pz III


    Eastern Front - Near Karkov?


    Pz III's with Tigers


    A PZ III of the 'Das Reich' Division


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    That picture is one of my favorites of the PzKpfw III.

    (In case it doesn't upload, it's the top pic in post #31)

    BTW...those are some nice pictures you added there Splinter...thanks.
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    Yeah.

    The Panzer III, Ausf. L in the fist picture looks kind of like a Panzer IV...

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    Yup!
    6+2=8 Road wheels+ engine deck+ exhaust & muffler system+ double door turret access hatches= PZKFW IV F1

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    Very good gallery, thank you. Quite lucky the german panzer commander in not being killed by the Boys shot.

    Pz III / Ausf. D in Afrika
    Ausf N actually.
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    2 more images

    Panzer III with interleaved roadwheels cleaning up rubble in Berlin.




    Daimler Benz production line, june 1940


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    Panzerknacker, do you know of any reason that they (Germans) didn't implement the use of the FAMO suspension on the PzKpfw III? If it had better performance as your earlire post suggested. Or why they didn't use it on the PzKpfw IV?
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    I am not quite sure, maybe they prefered to concentrate money expenditure in improve the gun and armor, and not the suspension.

    The same goes for the Panzer IV, and the panzer IV did need more desperately a better suspension because it used simple leafsprings, wich gave a hard ride above bad terrain. 2 prototipes of the panzer IV were equipped with Schachtellaufwerk.


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    You're probably right. It would be better to keep the tank crews alive rather than comfortable!
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    I'm sorry, but couldn't find a thread about PzKpfw IV.
    This was posted on the pic site, and I was wondering what the framework below the gun was for. Anyone know?
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    Is a deflector for the radio antenna, if not the gun barrel would break it.

    The topic:

    http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/show...ight=panzer+IV

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    Well crap, I put PzKpfw IV in search for threads and posts and nothing came up! Anyway, thanks for the info, looked kind of odd to have something hanging from the gun like that. And thanks for the thread link!
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    Ah...dont feel bad, the search tool is no good, unless you pic the option "search the title only" you would never find it.

    Another weird variant, Panzer III with the infantry pak 38.


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