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    What happened to the xm8 rifle?
    Did kennedy use politics to block the buy ?

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    Wasn't the project turned down because of problems with heat dissipation during intense use?
    Or maybe the US Army does not want to break up from the loved-hated M16?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerwulf6814 View Post
    What happened to the xm8 rifle?
    Did kennedy use politics to block the buy ?
    Um, no. The Bush ensnared us into the ground War which has prevented any further research on new small arms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamethrowerguy View Post
    Wasn't the project turned down because of problems with heat dissipation during intense use?
    Or maybe the US Army does not want to break up from the loved-hated M16?
    Partly. But the Iraq War is causing problems with the production of current small arms, much less newer ones...

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    XM-8 was binned because:
    - It isn't all that much better than an M-16, being really just a G-36 in new wrapping.
    - Iraq ate the budget
    - There is the current argument about calibres - buying the XM-8 would lock the US into 5.56mm for even longer
    - Iraq ate the budget
    - It was only ever really an extension of the (failed) OICW program, and the rationale for doing something with it in the first place was always a bit thin
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    Now, stuff like FN Scar, HK416, 6,5 mm Grendel and 6,8 mm Remington SPC is coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergej View Post
    Now, stuff like FN Scar, HK416, 6,5 mm Grendel and 6,8 mm Remington SPC is coming.

    Yeah. I think their going to redefine "small caliber" and try to hybrid the best of both worlds with a 6.5mm type round...

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    Not too mention that the XM-8 was ugly as sin. Looks more like a case for pool sticks than a rifle...

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    Well I heard form my dad that the Xm8 rifle had problems with the heat, and the feeding of a fresh round. It would cook off before the one firing it was ready.
    And the 5.56x45mm is a good anti-personal round, but has no balls, The much larger 7.62x59mm is a hard hitting round but the weight is dumb.

    I had In i idea that you could use depleted Uranieam ( tried to spell ) rounds like the M1A3 Abrams main battle tank.

    What do you all think? and what about the M9 beretta is that a good side arm?

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    There has been tonnes of small arms development since 2003 funded by the US military, almost all of which has been focused around improving the AR 15 platform. Examples: 6.8 SPC, HK 416, optics, handguards and so on. As has been set up the thread, the XM8 was an attempt to rescue something from the ridiculous OICW program and thereby justify the amount of money spent.

    As such, it suffers from all the problems of the G36, the most significant of which is that the dam thing melts, which is also why no serious army has adopted it and HK are now pushing the 416.

    Semper, 7.62 x 59 mm is a new one to me, did you invent it yourself? depleted uranium in a small arm? Such ideas are best kept to yourself...
    1884 electric cartridge. Look similar to anything?

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    there have been a lot of modular concept rifles suddenly prototyped. they all use the m4 platform then try to use carbon fiber tech to make it.all are caliber convertible-I would want to know more on the 6.8 SPC.
    then too everyone except the US is fielding a bullpup rifle.

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    Lets not forget the 4.8 mm unobtainium tipped cartridge proposed for use in the Calico weapon

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerwulf6814 View Post
    there have been a lot of modular concept rifles suddenly prototyped. they all use the m4 platform then try to use carbon fiber tech to make it.all are caliber convertible-I would want to know more on the 6.8 SPC.
    then too everyone except the US is fielding a bullpup rifle.
    There two rifles in 6,8 SPC:
    Barret M468
    Steyr AUG A3 (in testing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Stoat View Post
    There has been tonnes of small arms development since 2003 funded by the US military, almost all of which has been focused around improving the AR 15 platform. Examples: 6.8 SPC, HK 416, optics, handguards and so on. As has been set up the thread, the XM8 was an attempt to rescue something from the ridiculous OICW program and thereby justify the amount of money spent.

    As such, it suffers from all the problems of the G36, the most significant of which is that the dam thing melts, which is also why no serious army has adopted it and HK are now pushing the 416.

    Semper, 7.62 x 59 mm is a new one to me, did you invent it yourself? depleted uranium in a small arm? Such ideas are best kept to yourself...
    It is 7.62x51mm I was thinking of something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerwulf6814 View Post
    there have been a lot of modular concept rifles suddenly prototyped. they all use the m4 platform then try to use carbon fiber tech to make it.all are caliber convertible-I would want to know more on the 6.8 SPC.
    then too everyone except the US is fielding a bullpup rifle.


    No, I think that you will find that most armies still use a conventional layout, and for good reason.
    1884 electric cartridge. Look similar to anything?

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