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    Any idea of IRA'S armament ??? I know about AR-18 but i would like any more information you have

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    Well, last I heard, (for what its worth) they were using whatever they could acquire that served them. Once years ago a man came to my gun shop, and purchased all the .357 mag pistols I had. He did this several times. The ATF locals said to go ahead and sell them, as long as the sales were legitimate, I.D., paperwork, and multi sale reporting etc. They had an idea this man was a buyer for the I.R.A., but needed to investigate to be sure. They never informed me of their findings, but the man never returned.

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    The majority is Soviet-designed weaponry given by Libya in the 1980s (notably Semtex, a Czech product). The rest consists of weaponry obtained legally or otherwise in the US, improvised weapons (notably mortars and VBIEDs - the IRA manufactured nearly all of these in-house) and a small amount stolen in the UK or Irish Republic.

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    I thought they were largely DISarmed... God, I hope they are...

    pdf is correct. But the "Armalite" was mainly the M-16, not the AR-18 which never existed in large numbers anyways...

    They also had a collection of antiquated weapons such as Thompson sub-machine-guns and Lee Enfields. This in addition to a number of various side-arms which are useful to terrorists/guerrillas...

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    What is the Irish republican army?
    Is this official army of Ireland?No.
    I think this is pretty gang of partisans rathe than army and as any partisan group they use whatever they might stole, grab and buy .
    Once i watched the film where the IRA used the even RPG-7 agains column of Brits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevan View Post
    What is the Irish republican army?
    Is this official army of Ireland?No.
    I think this is pretty gang of partisans rathe than army and as any partisan group they use whatever they might stole, grab and buy .
    Once i watched the film where the IRA used the even RPG-7 agains column of Brits.
    They're a Marxist terrorist group with the ambition of uniting the island of Ireland under their rule in a one-party state. I'm not aware of them using RPG-7s on any occasions however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdf27 View Post
    They're a Marxist terrorist group with the ambition of uniting the island of Ireland under their rule in a one-party state. I'm not aware of them using RPG-7s on any occasions however.
    Yes. I was fired-on on two occasions back in '72 - '73 (nothing personal ). That was when the mesh, anti-rocket screens were placed around key points.

    The Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA - Provies) were a splinter from the Official Irish Republican Army (OIRA - Stickies). The OIRA decided around '69 not to pursue their aims by use of violence (Neither of these groups were anything to do with the defence forces of the Irish Republic of Eire).

    The Provies also had some 0.5 clibre Brownings and an assortment of rifles. Their preferred weapon was the AR18 Armalite. Quite a lot of their weaponry was kept in storage - not used during the campaign - ready for any major conflict with the Protestant para-militaries. one of their main proaganda objectives was to shoot down a British Army helicopter, but I forget which SAM system they possessed.

    Both the Provies and the Stickies were, and are, Republican para-military groups.

    The Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF), Ulster Defence Association (UDA), Ulster Freedom Fighters (UFF) and others were Loyalist or Protestant para-militaries. All of them illegal associations and considered 'terrorist' organisations by the British.
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    Well Chevan i dont agree with you . You mean they are insurgents right ??? You read about Somalia they used to buy guns , not to steel them , AK-47 , G3 , FN's and other guns . Hope you understand these things the way i write them

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    In reality, each of these groups are racketeers. They each rule their turf with harsh, disciplinary measures. The preferred punishment for minor offences in republican areas is 'knee-capping' (the bullet is usually shot through the knee from the back - some chap had a mishap when he shot into a knee-cap in the Lower Falls, they have been known to use power drills when seriously pissed-off). More serious crimes receive the death sentence and the bodies usally turn up in some roadside ditch. I do recall young girls being tarred and feathered for smiling at soldiers.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6966493.stm

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=t2IPCtrcFuE

    http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF03...oy/Conroy.html


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    The estimates on the types and numbers of weapons acquired by the IRA over the course of the current Troubles (i.e. since 1969) can be found here:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ns.html#table1

    It pretty much corresponds with the Decommissioning bodies comments (they have not released a full inverntory, but have made mention of certain types that they saw), and the Security Forces estimates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdf27 View Post
    They're a Marxist terrorist group with the ambition of uniting the island of Ireland under their rule in a one-party state. I'm not aware of them using RPG-7s on any occasions however.
    Marxist?
    Never heard about their marxsis or pro-communist roots.
    If so the SOviet propogand would PRed them as the "brave insugrents group that fight for social independence... " and other bulsh...t. But i never heard the Soviet Mass media even hinted at it.

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    The AR-18 is a cheap and sleazy rifle. Intended as a low-cost alternative weapon for countries that could not afford the latest Western rifles, it never achieved commercial success, but it has won a nasty reputation as a terrorist weapon, particularly in the hands of the Provisional IRA. Despite its pressed steel receiver and spot welds, it is a highly effective 5.56-mm rifle. The gun can be broken down for concealment without ruining the zeroing, so it can be pulled out of hiding and used immediately and accurately.
    They particularly liked the folding-butt version as it was easier to conceal.
    http://www.weaponryonline.com/Review...ent-id-15.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevan View Post
    Marxist?
    Never heard about their marxsis or pro-communist roots.
    If so the SOviet propogand would PRed them as the "brave insugrents group that fight for social independence... " and other bulsh...t. But i never heard the Soviet Mass media even hinted at it.
    Not all Marxist organisations were linked with the Soviet Union, nor supported by them. The Official Irish Republican Army was and still is Marxist, in the sense of the 1960s development of western socialist ideology (with it's own interpretation of euro-communism).

    The Provisional IRA was and still is an amalgamation of socialistic and religious ideologies, but based upon direct action. Religous sectarianism is at the core of it's rationale but its political manifestos are laced by visions of socialistic ideals rather than catholic religious fundamentalism.

    However, the IRA was always pragmatic and it's affiliations, going back most of the C20th would raise eyebrows. Infact, it was more successfulin interesting the Germans in supporting their cause than in interesting the Soviet Union.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 32Bravo
    Yes. I was fired-on on two occasions back in '72 - '73 (nothing personal ). That was when the mesh, anti-rocket screens were placed around key points.
    Yeah, should have remembered that. Still, given that I wasn't born until 1980 some things do tend to be a tadge remote

    Quote Originally Posted by Chevan View Post
    Marxist?
    Never heard about their marxsis or pro-communist roots.
    If so the SOviet propogand would PRed them as the "brave insugrents group that fight for social independence... " and other bulsh...t. But i never heard the Soviet Mass media even hinted at it.
    Couple of possible reasons for that. The most likely is simply that they were the wrong type of Marxist - the Soviets were never keen on encouraging Communist revolutions where the wrong type of Communist (i.e. one who wouldn't follow their instructions) was in charge. Hence if the IRA were ideologically closer to say Tito or Mao they wouldn't get Soviet support.
    The other possibility is that they were simply scared of giving non-Russian nationalities within the Soviet Union the idea that taking up an "armed struggle" for independence from the Soviet Union was possible. Given that the Soviet Union had perpetual problems with unruly nationalities within it (e.g. the Chechens today), I can see them being less than keen on supporting an organisation like the IRA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amrit View Post
    The Provisional IRA was and still is an amalgamation of socialistic and religious ideologies, but based upon direct action. Religous sectarianism is at the core of it's rationale but its political manifestos are laced by visions of socialistic ideals rather than catholic religious fundamentalism.
    Quite. Which can produce some funny moments, as when Sinn Fein's* official ambassador to Cuba was arrested with a couple of known IRA bomb-makers while on a visit to the FARC narco-terrorist group in Columbia. Funnily enough this didn't go down well with the United States!

    * Sinn Fein are the political wing of the Provisional IRA, and the leader of Sinn Fein is generally believed to have a seat on the Army Council, the governing body of the IRA.

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