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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonss View Post
    Quote As far as Lend Lease, we certainly gave the Soviets a lot of stuff, after all they destroyed about 80% of the Wehrmacht, end Quote.

    I don't by that. Many will not give the Germans credit. Germans nearly took Moscow / Stalingrad.
    What don't you "by" specifically? Who isn't giving the Germans credit? They scored spectacular, almost mindboggling, repeated victories over the Soviets in the first two years of the war and often captured hundreds of thousands of Red Army soldiers in single operations. It didn't matter...

    The Germans came close to Moscow but never were really close of capturing it. They had long blown their wad by diverting forces into Kiev and the Ukraine and other areas of the USSR rather than concentrating on Moscow as most in the German Army commanders wanted to do. The operation was far too late in the year and had the Soviets been a bit better logistically, they not only would have defeated the Germans near Moscow as they did in the harsh winter cold, but might had delivered a crushing blow to the Heer.

    Russians had US war equipment and weapons etc... and were getting a beating from the Wehrmacht. Why not sooner? why after the winter hit.?
    The Russians had US weapons, but with some notable exceptions, they weren't considered pivotal by the Soviets. Aside from the Sherman tank and the Aircobra fighter, few US weapons were used in significant numbers or for very long. It was the 'non-lethal' aid such as food, equipment, and trucks that had the most direct impact on the Red Forces. But the full effect wouldn't be felt until at least 1943 and the biggest American contribution to the Soviet Red Army was enabling them to become more of a mechanized, mobile army of maneuver with the Dodge Truck in particular getting a lot of love...

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    We may not "hold grudges", we may even forgive to a degree, but we will never forget what horrors and despicable acts the Germans (and the Japanese) visited upon the world. I do not condemn the individual German conscript who had to serve in the Wehrmacht; there are plenty of others for whom blame is the lightest of all possible sentences.

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    We know from his first campaign for the Senate that Joe McCarthy was a little less than honest. One of his slogans was, "Washington needs a tail gunner in the Senate." Joe McCarthy was never a tail gunner, although it became widely known later on that he was "gunning for tail" of another sort. But, following Washout's line of reasoning, since Joe McCarthy blatantly lied about his military service, I must perforce conclude that Joe McCarthy lied about just about everything, which, amazingly, proved to be true!

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    My grandfather, Roland Piesk, was buried on the Soldier Cemetery at the Schajkowka airbase in Russia. Location site of the grave: Schajkowka, row 7, grave 349. Altogether there are 636 notices of loss for this ground the Russians desecrated the graves. Today this area is overbuild with a garage complex, so a repositioning/transfer of remains is sadly impossible.

    The VOLKSBUND issued a 100 volume documentation of all known persons dead or lost during the war in Russia, in which your grandfather's particulars/identification papers are listed. The documentation, right now 1.060.000 names right now, is not complete, it is updated periodically with new volumes. The books are preserved in the exhibition and remembrance room in the, from the Volksbund rebuild, church “Maria Himmelfahrt” in Solobukowka be St Petersburg(Leningrad). The Church, right next to the german Soldier Cemetery and the ‘Friedenspark’, was used as a military hospital.

    I hate Russia.

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    Yes, what sometimes happens to the war dead is despicable. I once read a story where there was a building full of German war dead in boxes and for some odd reason they were not buried and Germany will not take them either. Go figure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laconia View Post
    Yes, what sometimes happens to the war dead is despicable. I once read a story where there was a building full of German war dead in boxes and for some odd reason they were not buried and Germany will not take them either. Go figure!
    The reason is Germany is not the appropriate government directs
    Furthermore, now the Germans have been brain washed well with this kind of "Nazi" theme by the Jews and American democracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    ... the full effect wouldn't be felt until at least 1943 and the biggest American contribution to the Soviet Red Army was enabling them to become more of a mechanized, mobile army of maneuver with the Dodge Truck in particular getting a lot of love...
    Actually the Lend liase has becoming essential since mid 1943 when there been organized the 3-way of supplied via Alaska, Iran and Murmansk. The biggest effect we got was of course the trucks and jeeps, but ammo, petrol and food(conservated) was the also very importaint. The aircobra was also a effective on the Easter front ( i dunno was it effective on the other fronts?) . The shermans wasn't suitable against german panzers, but it was damn confortable for the russian standarts( yet it have an radios and good electronic equipment). Plus i read each the each tank from USA has been suplied with a bottle of wisky , covered in gun)))) Nice surprise

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