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    Default Re: What's wrong with this picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    I'm not sure whether infantry officers wore the slouch in WWI. I think they wear the usual British pattern officer's peaked cap in the pictures I've seen, but maybe they wore slouches. It's not something I've ever paid attention to before now.
    Just to add to the confusion, NCO's and OR's were issued with peaked caps as well as slouches in WWI. More here http://www.firstaif.info/42/level2/r...%20two%20hats?


    32Bravo

    I've never worn the rising sun badge. Nor have I worn a slouch in uniform, but millions of them were around after WWII and were commonly used by labourers, on farms and so on. I think just about every family had at least one slouch when I was a kid.

    I was in armour. Slouches are a bit awkward in armoured vehicles. We wore the black beret with the unit badge for all formal dress and either the beret or giggle hats for field dress. Mechanised infantry grunts like me got the giggle hat. Blokes who got to drive armoured vehicles usually wore a beret with badge for field dress, being more dashing than grunts and also not having to worry about a nice shiny chrome badge above the left eye standing out in scrub.

    Our armoured black beret is derived from the British version.
    http://images.google.com.au/imgres?i...%3Dig%26sa%3DG

    Armour now wears the slouch for ceremonial occasions, but naturally distinguishes itself from lesser mortals (being the rest of the army and the Australian population ) by other accoutrements, including the emu feather originally worn by the WWI Light Horse for units which trace back to those origins. http://images.google.com.au/imgres?i...%3Dig%26sa%3DG

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    Default Re: What's wrong with this picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by 32Bravo View Post
    There does appear to be the faint trace of a captains insignia on his epalettes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    I wondered about that too. I thought it might be a lieutenant's two pips as I could make out only two spots, but the proximity of the innermost one to the button near the collar suggests there might be three. Or maybe it's just a trick of the light.
    The smudges look too irregular to be the remains of pips. Either the light/shadowing or somethings else (the uniform looks too clean otherwise for it to be dirt). I have darkened the picture so the marks stand out more.
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    Default Re: What's wrong with this picture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amrit View Post
    The smudges look too irregular to be the remains of pips. Either the light/shadowing or somethings else (the uniform looks too clean otherwise for it to be dirt). I have darkened the picture so the marks stand out more.
    Amrit

    Thanks again for that.

    The mystery darkens.

    Shoulder straps which never had anything on them would be most unlikely to have the marks your photo work has illustrated, nor does it seem to be dirt or a trick of the light. The marks are equally consistent with a crown and a pip above it as with a subaltern's pips, which is even less likely for Jackson.

    I'm wondering if it's a case of Jackson being photographed in a uniform cobbled together after the war (he looks pretty adult for a teenager), or perhaps after he returned to Australia during the war as his kit after being wounded might not have followed him.

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    Default Re: What's wrong with this picture?

    The "Park in Sydney" is in fact, Centennial Park......
    "It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees!"

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