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    Default Tracer color used by the German Panzerwaffe

    I got a Russian copy of the upcoming PC game T-34 vs Tiger. In the game all tanks got the same tracers color a yellowish white that Iím in doubt itís correct.
    During my time as tanker we used the standard NATO color red thatís good to see even at daylight.
    Now my Q.
    What was the tracer color of the ammo of either the 8.8 cm KwK 36 (Tiger Ausf.E); 7.5cm KwK 42( Panther Ausf.D-G).

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    Default Re: Tracer color used by the German Panzerwaffe

    I guess you should ask a veteran.

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    As I understand it, from the veterans that have shared their experinces with me, the 88 fired in direct fire-ground mode was visible as a comet-like green ball. In AA mode the tracers were not visible or used, but 88 flak bursts were black and 105-128mm were brown.

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    Yeah, I think they were green, but not sure.

    Never heard of that game, what kind of game is it? Strategy, Simulation, Action?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    Yeah, I think they were green, but not sure.

    Never heard of that game, what kind of game is it? Strategy, Simulation, Action?
    My understanding is that German KwK tracershot of 50mm through to 128 mm was a sickly flouro-lime green colour, somewhat similar to modern chemical "lightsticks" as used by trampers/hikers etc.
    A veteran friend is ex-Tankcorps, and has seen 75mm and 88mm German KwK tracer in action.

    Regards, Uyraell.

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    So your friend is a WW2 veteran? Or is he talking about the modern tracers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    So your friend is a WW2 veteran? Or is he talking about the modern tracers?
    Hello Schuultz,

    He's 80-plus years of age, about 86, I think.
    Ex Royal Tanks WW 2 and ex NZ Armoured Corps Vietnam era.
    He began WW2 as Royal Navy, a shipwright by trade.
    Ended up in Mountbatten's lot, Combined Ops.
    From there, he ended up in Royal Tanks.
    Which is, as I understand it, where he was serving when he saw the tracers in action, in WW2.
    Now, as to exact details of his WW2 service, that may never be published in our lifetimes. His ended up being one of those "off the books" Units, which were used in what today's terminology is Classified/Covert Ops, somewhat similar to modern Special Forces, of which his Unit was in many ways an ancestor.
    That's as about as informative as I can be about him, career-wise.
    I hope it suffices, Schuultz,

    Regards, Uyraell.

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    That's more than enough. I was just wondering, could've been you misunderstood the threat title

    And I hope I'm still alive when that stuff gets published... I mean, they won't keep them under seal for too long now, will they? My understanding was that they only kept stuff under seal until no survivors are left. Which would probably be withing the next 10 - 20, max. 30 years...

    So I hope I'm still alive then

    That is unless that stupid meteor hits us in the 2030s...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    That's more than enough. I was just wondering, could've been you misunderstood the threat title

    And I hope I'm still alive when that stuff gets published... I mean, they won't keep them under seal for too long now, will they? My understanding was that they only kept stuff under seal until no survivors are left. Which would probably be withing the next 10 - 20, max. 30 years...

    So I hope I'm still alive then

    That is unless that stupid meteor hits us in the 2030s...
    Don't worry Shuultz you will be alive if not i will write a memoir about you And get rid of the feeling that meteor will hit us in 2030s , get to bed early and don't watch too much fantasy films ( joke )
    As for the game i gave it a try and i have to say it's nice simulation , everything is pretty much real at least i think so . Maybe it lacks a more variety of vechiles and the soldiers are a little bit not on top with the graphics . The other thing that i saw was that the campaigns of the russians and the germans are actually only with 6 missions which is quite short ...
    I hope they will improve that and will put more missions with some patch or add-on .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivaylo View Post
    Don't worry Shuultz you will be alive if not i will write a memoir about you And get rid of the feeling that meteor will hit us in 2030s , get to bed early and don't watch too much fantasy films ( joke )
    Daily Show would never lie to me!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    Daily Show would never lie to me!!
    I am not so sure Schuultz That could be a market trick so you to watch it more and more Better try to live now

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    Well, it was the future Boss of NASA who said it. Though he said that there's currently a meteor approaching the earth and that in 2027 we'll be able to predict whether he hits us 7 years later or not... It wasn't to panic-making...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuultz View Post
    That's more than enough. I was just wondering, could've been you misunderstood the threat title

    And I hope I'm still alive when that stuff gets published... I mean, they won't keep them under seal for too long now, will they? My understanding was that they only kept stuff under seal until no survivors are left. Which would probably be withing the next 10 - 20, max. 30 years...

    So I hope I'm still alive then

    That is unless that stupid meteor hits us in the 2030s...
    A long way off topic for thread, but the mods may forgive it: Make no bets on how long the classified ops stuff stays classified. It has to be remembered, Winston Churchill had the King assent to alteration of the applicable laws, so that the Brit info on Pearl Harbour and events prior is NOT released until 2092: 150 years. It isn't beyond reason that with such a statute amendment in place that almost any sufficiently dread/classifed op could be covered the same way.
    Regards, Uyraell.

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    Jeez, no wonder there's conspiracy theories all around! But wouldn't a new government be able to reduce the classified time? I don't want to wait until I'm 102 to experience that nasty scandal...
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