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    The U.S. Official History estimated that 120,000 troops, plus replacements, were committed to Hürtgen; by the end there had been 24,000 casualties plus 9,000 non-battle. Two divisions, the U.S. 4th Infantry Division and the U.S. 9th Infantry Division, were so badly mauled that they were withdrawn from the line to recuperate.

    The battle for Schmidt cost 6,184 U.S. casualties — compared with about 4,000 losses by the two divisions at Omaha Beach. German casualties were fewer than 3,000.

    In the second phase, the U.S. 4th Division had advanced 1½ miles by November 20, having suffered 1,500 battle casualties plus non-battle casualties numbering in the several hundreds due to trench foot, frostbite, and exhaustion. After two weeks, three miles had been gained for 4,053 battle and 2,000 non-battle casualties, bringing the November totals to 170 officers and 4,754 men.

    One reference book I read talked about the new troops arriving at Aachen and the dead had not been gathered or buried in months. There were rotting corpses all over the ground. This was not what a fresh faced boy just out of boot camp needed to see.


    There should never have been a "second phase" of this battle, it was useless slaughter.

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    Hi all,

    Sorry for any dupes, but was reading up on this last night and ran across this:

    http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksd...nForest/HF.htm

    Thought might add to the discussion....
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    Good find, thanks...

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    Huertgen was a total blunder and waste of American lives it served very little if any tactical importance and could have been surrounded and bombed into oblivion much like the russians did to all the trapped Germans in another forest south of berlin.

    There were many other divisons involved in the battle the 1st Divison also fought in the Huertgen but as much of what the Big Red One did isnt written about or explored much.

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    A good account of the Hurtgen Forest battle:
    "Victory was beyond their grasp,with the 272nd Volksgrenadier division from the Hurtgen forest to the heart of the Reich" by Doug Nash
    @Librarian,thanks for the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Senseless bloodbath of a blunder or a sensible gamble that failed?

    I'm thinking the US command should have been sent to the front-lines for it...
    Senseless bloodbath perpetrated by people who could not possibly have known what the terrain was like and didn't seem to care all that much to find out. A horrific display of officers with maps dictating (badly and with very, very little to gain from such manuevers) the actions of those doing the actual fighting, IMHO.

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    Dara

    You sound like what a critic would have said about WW1 Western Front battles.

    Paul

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    Really? I just find that this was one of the most disgusting displays of trying to gain something of little value at the cost of so much and so many. The more I learn about this, the more I find that I am sick to my stomach.

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    i know that the 4th and 1st inf. div. fought there along with the 36th div. and 442 inf.reg.

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    I'm sure I read somewhere many years ago (I think it was in After the Battle Magazine) that a crewman (men) of a Sherman Tank were not recovered from their destroyed vehicle in Hurtgen Forest until many years after the war. It was in a cordoned of area strewn with glass mines which was too dangerous to clear. I can't remember if the unfortunate(s) were recovered in 1963 or 1973 or some such date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner-B View Post
    I'm sure I read somewhere many years ago (I think it was in After the Battle Magazine) that a crewman (men) of a Sherman Tank were not recovered from their destroyed vehicle in Hurtgen Forest until many years after the war. It was in a cordoned of area strewn with glass mines which was too dangerous to clear. I can't remember if the unfortunate(s) were recovered in 1963 or 1973 or some such date.

    Paul
    Right, Paul, however it was not a Sherman. Please look here:
    http://www.ww2incolor.com/modern/HiH_301_1%23.html
    "I just ran out of ammo. I will ram this one. Good bye, we'll meet in Valhalla." - Major Heinrich Ehrler, April 4, 1945

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamethrowerguy View Post
    Right, Paul, however it was not a Sherman. Please look here:
    http://www.ww2incolor.com/modern/HiH_301_1%23.html
    If I recall right, the caption that I saw in the 'After the Battle' magazine showed a Sherman under a few trees fenced off in about an acre of land. By the looks of the picture it seemed to have been taken long after the war.
    It goes to show Just how dangerous the Glass mines were and how hazardous it must have been for those brave American troops.

    Paul

    Sorry about the delay in replying to this thread as I was away for the week visiting family.

    Happy and prosperous new year to all at WW2 in Colour.

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    didnt the 442 infantry regiment fight there. i believe they were attached to the 36 texas national guard division. they made a movie about it with van johnson i believe.

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    the hurtgen forest battles were a shambles

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    Quote Originally Posted by peopleselbow View Post
    the hurtgen forest battles were a shambles
    Yes, and I feel like fighting the Lernaean Hydra.
    "I just ran out of ammo. I will ram this one. Good bye, we'll meet in Valhalla." - Major Heinrich Ehrler, April 4, 1945

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