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    Senseless bloodbath of a blunder or a sensible gamble that failed?

    I'm thinking the US command should have been sent to the front-lines for it...

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    yes, senseless, with massive casualties. one day F company of the 22nd infantry regiment went foward for an attack, something like 12 guys walked out.

    also has anyone not heard of the thanksgiving dinner incident?

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    Default Re: The Huertgen Forest

    Not the one in Hurtgen. (There was also one in Korean, 1950)

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    oh, well when Roosevelt declared that each man in the US army would receive a turkey dinner for thanksgiving, men all over the 4th ID begged their commanding officers not to make them eat it. But sure enough all over the hurtgen forest men were gathered together to recieve their thanksgiving turkey. needless to say, with entire companies of infantry gathered together, the german artillery observers didnt waste the opportunity

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    I think they could have gone around the forest right,

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    Quote Originally Posted by GliderInfantry View Post
    I think they could have gone around the forest right,
    not sure what u mean, but if you mean that they would be safe under the trees (which is pretty much all of hurtgen) then thats the worst place you could be because the artillery shells explode in the treetops basically doubling the amount of shrapnel, since you have to add massive chunks of wood into the mix

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    I n my last post it might have been mis- understood I meant for the american forces to by pass it to go around it to isolate it like they did to some of the japanese held islands in the pacific.any thoughts on this

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    Default Re: The Huertgen Forest

    It's been a while since I read specifically about the Hurtgen, but I believe the plan had something to do with an amateurish attempt at infiltrating the forest and surprising the Germans on the other side of the Ardennes after engineers opened a road, and to fight a bit of a holding action forcing the Germans to disperse their forces. Instead, they handed the Wehrmacht prime opportunities for cover and concealment of ambushes and counterattacks rather than their own advance, and basically squandered their great advantages in mobility and firepower over the Germans...

    BTW, may avatar is of a soldier during a pause in the action...

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    Default Re: The Huertgen Forest

    Fighting germans in a german forrest, never a good idea since 9 AD
    Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Fighting germans in a german forrest, never a good idea since 9 AD
    not according to riddley scott ...
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    Yeah, he's quite the guy for historic accuracy
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    Default Re: The Huertgen Forest

    not only him though,. most of other guys from sacredwood
    "My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack. If it is a vessel equal to yours, attack. And if it is stronger than yours, also attack."

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    Quote Originally Posted by overlord644 View Post
    not sure what u mean, but if you mean that they would be safe under the trees (which is pretty much all of hurtgen) then thats the worst place you could be because the artillery shells explode in the treetops basically doubling the amount of shrapnel, since you have to add massive chunks of wood into the mix
    no complete by pass it isolate it the war would be over in 6 months or so and the wood was no strategic value that i know of am I correct?

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    Red face What the Hurtgen forest was called by the germans

    The germans called it Die Totenfabrik or death factory
    with good reason I guess.


    Mod note: We already have a thread on the Battle of the Huertgen Forest.
    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 03-24-2008 at 08:56 PM. Reason: Obvious

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    yes the germans were able to be in a good defensive position , in the forest you had to fight inf. tactics and were unable to use tanks, arty or cas .

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