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    Default Re: Special purpose Panzers.

    For recovery of armoured vehicles with missing road/idler wheels and/or top rollers we used to put the track back on with maybe a few links removed so that we could drive them at least some way to a more suitable area for repair, low loader or tow.

    Always makes me wonder why so many armoured vehicles had front driving sprockets but rear engines with a transmission having to fit through the hull. The notable exception seems to be Soviet tanks.

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    For recovery of armoured vehicles with missing road/idler wheels and/or top rollers we used to put the track back on with maybe a few links removed so that we could drive them at least some way to a more suitable area for repair, low loader or tow.
    Well, that is quite feasible too.

    Always makes me wonder why so many armoured vehicles had front driving sprockets but rear engines with a transmission having to fit through the hull. The notable exception seems to be Soviet tanks.
    It was always seen more logical the motor to "pull" the tracks, instead "pushing" them, that is why
    you see always big russians tank like the VK-1 or JS- 2 with ( apparently) loose tracks. In the end it didnt make a lot of difference


    Führungpanzer III

    Panzer III ausf G or H with aditional radio equipment for guiding remore controlled explosive loaded vehicles like the Sd.Kfz 300/301. 70 converted in 1942-43, used by F.K battallions.



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    Leichter Reheinwerfer SOMUA MCG

    In early 1943 the Generalfeldmarschall Rommel, just arriving from the African teather of operation was put in charge of inspecting the defensive worthiness of the Atlantic Wall. From Rommel s inspiration came a number of special panzers whom are little known even today. One of the first request of Rommel was for a movable plataform capable to deliver a rain of mortar shells on the beachheads.



    This armoured vehicles manufactured to fullfill this requeriment had a weird looking shape, mostly because they were erected over a captured French MCG artillery tractor of the Societe d`Outillage Mecanique et Usinage d`Artillerie ( society of machine tools and artillery manufacturing) mostly know as SOMUA.
    Its engine and driver compartiment were cover by armoured plate to withstand rifle fire. 16 tubes of “8cm granatwerfer” (literally grenade throwers) were emplaced over a steel turntable. The 16 pieces were muzzleloaders and could turn 360 º and fire in a 16 shots salvo or two salvoes of 8 shells each.

    The normal vehicle crew was 4, driver, two loaders and aimer/ vehicle chief. Max muzzle velocity of the 80mm projectile 224 mps, max range 2700 meters. Some 36 L.Rw.Somua halftracks were completed inside Alkett facilities by the “Baukommando Becker” between april and july 1943.



    Characteristics Light Grenade thrower on SOMUA MGC:

    Engine. 6 cilinders gasoline SOMUA 105 hp.

    Weight: 6100 kg

    Suspension: leaf spring

    Armor: 8-9mm

    Speed: 45 km/h
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    Firing a salvo of eight seems an awkward way for the fire control blokes to direct the fire. Would have made more sense to have ripple fire or an ability to fire one round at a time.

    Firing all 16 must have compressed the suspension quite abit so maybe accuracy was not too good especially when firing 16 rounds over nearly 3 km.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leccy View Post
    Firing a salvo of eight seems an awkward way for the fire control blokes to direct the fire. Would have made more sense to have ripple fire or an ability to fire one round at a time.

    Firing all 16 must have compressed the suspension quite abit so maybe accuracy was not too good especially when firing 16 rounds over nearly 3 km.
    It was essentially an improvised "stonk" system, much as the use of "hedgehog" from tanks on land was for British forces.
    Accuracy wasn't quite so critical as for an artillery stonk for example, because the system PK shows in the photo was an area weapon in any case, and the beaten zone of impact was measured in tens of square yards rather than smaller units.

    Basically, though smaller and vastly more mobile, this German system has more in common with the British "Matress" (the LCM with multiple hedgehog launchers, as employed at Walcheren, for example) bombardment system than it does with a conventional mortar role.

    Panzerknacker, a very neat posting, my friend, thoroughly enjoyable.
    From memory, I don't think more than approximately 150 Somua-Kegresse vehicles were converted as this image shows.
    Have you confirmation of the number of conversions?

    Kind and Respectful Regards Leccy my friend, Uyraell.
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    I was thinking that maybe an ability to fire one round and watch for fall then let loose with the rest 'suitable adjusted' may have made it a bit more useful.
    That then really depends also on the type of munitions and blast radius they have as to whether it is necessary, with a range of 2.7km maybe it was used to just kill an area.
    Interestingly it seems to have a sighting system fitted to the rear of the tubes so maybe that is a good enough targeting mechanism for this weapon.

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    It possible that kind of employment be more useful, but if you want to fire just one and then correct is for more prectical to had simply a mortar carring armored vehicle attached to the infantry platoon, the multiple tube requeriment was crucial because a large salvo was needed.

    This vehicle was also intended to be employed in a well known area, area in wich the topographic adjustments for an artillery piece were already known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzerknacker View Post
    From memory, I don't think more than approximately 150 Somua-Kegresse vehicles were converted as this image shows.
    Have you confirmation of the number of conversions?
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    The number of this model were 36, also some 20 units of the "heavy" mortar launcher were converted.





    The "base" halftrack was an artillery tractor, look like this. Not the best looking but still a solid, reliable machine.


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    Many Thanks Panzerknacker my friend.
    Years ago I was hurriedly reading an article on these. Felt I may have mis-recalled the number converted.

    Kind and Respectful Regards my friend Panzerknacker, Uyraell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uyraell View Post
    Many Thanks Panzerknacker my friend.
    Years ago I was hurriedly reading an article on these. Felt I may have mis-recalled the number converted.

    Kind and Respectful Regards my friend Panzerknacker, Uyraell.
    No problem mate:

    MIttlerer Flampanzerwagen Sd. Kfz 521/16.



    The medium sized flamethrower was based on a well know Sd.Kfz 251 halftrack and made on request of Eastern front commanders. The Flammpanzerwagen was to be used in bush or closed country to attack enemy infantry in wooden bunkers, trenches or to burn down houses and buildings in the urban combat.

    This special panzer gave a considerable boost to the firepower in the infantry zug ( platoon) but given the short range of the flame launcher made it was vulnerable to antitank rifle fire and relegated actions in open country to night ot low light hours.



    Its device consisted in a 30 hp two stroke engine to pump the "flammöl" burning fuel ( a mixture of low octane gasoline and mineral oil). There were two flamethorwers , one with a 14mm diameter muzzle and a range of 50 meters. And other with a 7mm diameter muzzle and a range of 40 meters. Firing the two pipes at the same time was nor recomended since it downsized the range of each muzzle.
    Is not precisely know how many of this incendiary variant haltrack were made but is stimated in 1000 to 1200 all completed the firm Wesserhütte.

    Sd.Kfz 251 / 16:

    Engine : Maybach 6 cilinders 100 hp

    Armor: 14, 5mm to 8mm

    Armament: 2 flamethrowers, 2 MP 40 with 392 rounds, 1 MG 34 or MG 42 with 2100 rounds. 20 stick hand grenades.

    Speed: 50 km/h

    Weight: 8650 kg.

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    Default Re: Special purpose Panzers.

    Note "special" protection clothing of the 251/16 crews:
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    Quote Originally Posted by flamethrowerguy View Post
    Note "special" protection clothing of the 251/16 crews:
    That definately gave them a modern soldier looking, remember me the protective clothing used by the uS army in the 1991 desert Storm .



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    Default Re: Special purpose Panzers.

    The open top configuration looks like a sniper's wet-dream though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    The open top configuration looks like a sniper's wet-dream though...
    Indeed but the schutzenpanzerwagen was a good improvement over the classical transport of teh infantry, his feet.

    Selbstfahrlafette für 28/32 cm Wurfrahamen auf Infanterieschlepper UE

    Quite long name for a really small vehicle. Using the large amount of UE this movable projectiles launchers is based on the light UE armoured chassis and it had a very specific function, to deliver a burst of hevy rockets over an allied beachhead once they reached any part of the French northern coast.

    The “wurfrahamen”, launching frame was light and very simple structure and could be adjusted for elevation for but have no azimuth at all. The rockets were to be aimed turning the entire vehicle. The heavy german artillery rockets were spin-stabilized with a range of 1800 meters (280mm variant) and 2000 meters ( 320 mm variant), once they landed on its target the effective explosive radius was stimated in 50 meters.



    In any case it wasnt spected to use this tiny panzer in first line, his function was to deliver an salvo of rockets and quickly retire to cover/ reload in a safe area.

    Between 40-50 of this small special panzer were in service in the years 1943-44.


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    Gepanzerter-Munitions Zugkraftwagen MCG

    Armored munition carrier. A tipical german rebuild vehicle, based on the trusty Somua 5 ton halftrack. The chassis and cabin were fully covered with 8mm chrome-moly steel plate. A total of 48 build in 1943 and used to support the 75 mm pak self propelled tank-hunters of the panzer-sturmbrigade 200 operating in the defensive front of the Atlantic Wall, north of France.




    Weight of the entire panzer was about 8,8 tons

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