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    Default MG-34 "S", MG-34/41 & others

    Does anybody have a good site /pictures/etc about this variants of the MG 34 because the info I have is a little ambiguous.

    For example one source said the the MG 34/41 is a reduced rate of fire MG 34...and the other sources said it have 1100 rof.


    I am only positive that those had shorter barrel and single stage trigger.


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    Spamming a little to be sure somebody saw this

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    Books mate, get more books ;-)

    I don't know of any specific websites that cover this model. But "MG34 - MG42 German Universal Machineguns" by Folke Myrvang has a chapter on them.

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    Well...books is the ideal thing, but unfortunately not always available.

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    Thats the beauty of the internet, it gives specialist authors like our own member Tony Williams an immediate and global audience/market. No longer are they reliant on book shops stocking their work, material that is for the most part too specific for the average shop client.

    The people that put in the hard hours of research deserve our patrionage, or they will stop publishing and we would all loose out.

    Check out this publisher for an excellent starting point: Collectors Grade Publications I have ordered from this company many books and have always been happy with their service (even if shipping is a little slow to NZ).

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    Agreed. I will give a look to your link, thanks.

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    MG 34 and MG 34s emplacements in concrete and steel bunkers.

    The quotes muzzle velocity ( 755 mps) is only with the SS ( schweres spitzgeschoss, heavy pointed bullet) ammunition, with the S.m.E and S.m.K it increased between 5 to 10 %.







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    PK, it was my understanding the use of the "S" designation referred to the use of either the MG 34 or MG 42 on the heavy tripod mounting. "S" being the abbreviation of "Schwer".
    Reduced rof would only be by adjustments to the mechanism.
    As I have said on other threads here, the typical rof was 1280 rds per min for the MG42.
    It would follow that 1100 rds per min is in fact "reduced" but plainly only by a factor of roughly 10%, for which no actual mechanical adjustment need be made, as a disciplined soldier would control rof to that degree in any case.

    Given the above, I'd be inclined to view the "S" as referring to those occasions the tripod is/was employed, thus the "Heavy" designation being used.

    Respectful Regards, Uyraell.

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    Hmm, is possible in regards of the "S" but I ve seen Mg-34 mgs with non-selective trigger and shorter barrel, is that the 34/41 ?
    Last edited by Panzerknacker; 05-10-2009 at 09:06 PM.

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    A good point my friend: and in truth I think the answer to MG34/41 is "yes".

    In 1978 I had a very large book in my hands, which detailed the histories of most firearms that had been produced from about 1800 through to 1977. It weighed a good 15kg as a softback, was about 40cm tall, 30cm wide, and 12cm thick.
    It was about $120. at the time, and I never bought it: these days it would likely be illegal to even own it, in politically correct and thus backward NZ.

    The section on the MG34/MG42 was about 25 pages. From memory the MG34/41 was full auto only, and ran at 1100 rds-per-min, which would tie-in with the figure you mention in your post. Again, from memory very few (comparatively) were manufactured, as they were an interim weapon pending the service introduction of the MG42.

    I wish I could recall more, but I hope the above data helps you, PK.

    Kind Regards, Uyraell.
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    Oh, thank you. Is good to clear this things, to me this small details are important as the NASDAQ is for others.

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    You're most welcome, my friend, glad the info helped.
    If I recall more, I'll post it.

    Kind Regards, Uyraell.

    "Honi-Soit Qui Mal'Y Pense." :
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    Edward III, Rex Britania, AD1348.

    "Wenn Schon, denn schon."
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    "Until you have looked into a veteran's eyes and actually seen it,
    you'll never fully understand."
    ^Uyraell^

    "Aligaes : Amore vel Ira." :
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uyraell View Post
    It was about $120. at the time, and I never bought it: these days it would likely be illegal to even own it, in politically correct and thus backward NZ.
    Huh? you live in the same NZ I do? The one where you can still own functioning machineguns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bas View Post
    Huh? you live in the same NZ I do? The one where you can still own functioning machineguns?
    Only if very strict criteria are met, and the person's life has been under various degrees of microscope.

    Regards, Uyraell.

    "Honi-Soit Qui Mal'Y Pense." :
    "Ill unto he who ill of it thinks."
    Edward III, Rex Britania, AD1348.

    "Wenn Schon, denn schon."
    "Be It Done, Best be It Be Done Well."
    Known German adage.

    "Until you have looked into a veteran's eyes and actually seen it,
    you'll never fully understand."
    ^Uyraell^

    "Aligaes : Amore vel Ira." :
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    Lucky new zealanders, in here you are put in the microscope just for buying a humble 9 mm pistol.


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