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    By the looks of it, it is an a selfpropelled tank aircraft hybrid my guess made by (also by the stars) the allies


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    The "CCCP" is a subtle hint, being as it is short for Союз Советских Социалистических Республик. Or in what may be a more familiar translation "Union of Soviet Socialst Republics".

    I have seen pictures of Soviet glider tanks (Antonov A-40), but I haven't seen one fitted with an engine before. I rather suspect that this was just a mock-up model of somebody's wild idea - fitting a powerful enough engine to lug any weight of armour around isn't going to be very practical, particularly with wings that small.
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    on the other wing says AT-1 or I, dont know if that rings a bell


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    Quote Originally Posted by RifleMan20 View Post
    on the other wing says AT-1 or I, dont know if that rings a bell
    It is LT-1 (ЛТ-1). Stands for "Летающий Танк 1" = "Flying Tank 1"

    A wooden model of a prototype designed by Michail Smalko (Михаил Смалько) in 1937.

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    I've seen a picture of a donkey with the panzerschreck attached to its back...

    But this one goes far beyond that height of absurdity...

    A tank with the wings, oh my...

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    huh, maybe I should learn the russian language, it might be hard though


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovalski View Post
    I've seen a picture of a donkey with the panzerschreck attached to its back...

    But this one goes far beyond that height of absurdity...

    A tank with the wings, oh my...
    Not just wings... Telescopic wings! And a propeller that can be hiden behind the armour.

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    the tank looks like it only has a small double barrel machine turret, no cannon


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    Quote Originally Posted by RifleMan20 View Post
    the tank looks like it only has a small double barrel machine turret, no cannon
    2 x 12,5mm machine guns + 1 x 7,92mm machine gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by RifleMan20 View Post
    the tank looks like it only has a small double barrel machine turret, no cannon
    Because the prop would smash on a cannon.

    If a cannon was swung to the rear it would alter the weight balance and make the plane too tail heavy to take off.

    A flying tank can strafe so it doesn't need a cannon.

    Note how the MG's are elevated with a rail all around the turret? The rail prevents the MG's depressing in flight, so the MG's can't shoot the prop as they dive to strafe, nor shoot off their own tail in defence against another plane.

    Note also the twin headlights. These could be adjusted by the gunner on a parallax basis to direct the twin MG's very accurately as the third point of the triangulated fire direction cone.

    If this flying tank had ever gone into production, it would have ruled the skies and given the Soviets victory to the point they would have met the British and Americans in Paris.

    However, the Americans recognised the threat and sent the wrong specifications to the Soviets so the the mattress spring factory converted to produce the retractable wing springs never made springs that worked. As the wings never extended enough for take off, all prototypes were eventually destroyed and the idea was abandoned.

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    Is clearly a concept model:

    "Look, comrade Stalin, at the superiority of Soviet weapons design, unhindered by such bourgeois concepts as the reactionary laws of Newtonian physics! Let us give thanks to the memory of comrade Lenin that the capitalist running dogs in the West cannot benefit from the revolutionary insights of socialist science such as these "
    1884 electric cartridge. Look similar to anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Man of Stoat View Post
    Is clearly a concept model:

    "Look, comrade Stalin, at the superiority of Soviet weapons design, unhindered by such bourgeois concepts as the reactionary laws of Newtonian physics! Let us give thanks to the memory of comrade Lenin that the capitalist running dogs in the West cannot benefit from the revolutionary insights of socialist science such as these "
    LOL

    Whatever its a complete waste of time. There is know way you could get that thing off the ground under is own power unless you stripped it down to a flying beer can. Even then the aerodynamics look pretty depressing. Plus when are you supposed to deploy the tracks...........Im quite sure you not landing on tracks. The US Sheridan tank (Vietnam) was dropped from a C-130 on a skid. Even if you dropped this from a plane it would still be a retarded idea. Whoever came up with this concept .......... minus it being a 5 year old. Should have been shot for stupidity.

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    I understand your humour. But if you look at the specs below you will see that the idea was not absolutely crazy as such.

    Remembering the purpose (gliding behind the line) and with a bit stronger power plant this project is not absolutely fantastic.

    How much practical it would be is another issue. And that is exactly why the works did not go further than just a wooden model.


    LT-1 project
    Mass loaded = 4.500 kg
    Powerplant = 526 kW
    Power/weight = 8,55 kg/kW
    Wing area = 32 m2
    Wing loading = 141 kg/m2


    Hurricane IIC
    Mass loaded = 3.480 kg
    Powerplant = 883 kW
    Power/weight = 3,94 kg/kW
    Wing area = 24 m2
    Wing loading = 145 kg/m2


    DH.98 Mosquito B Mk XVI
    Mass loaded Max = 11.000 kg
    Powerplant = 2 x 1.280 kW
    Power/weight = 4,29 kg/kW
    Wing area = 42 m2
    Wing loading = 262 kg/m2


    IL-2M3
    Mass loaded Max = 6.160 kg
    Powerplant = 1.285 kW
    Power/weight = 4,79 kg/kW
    Wing area = 38 m2
    Wing loading = 162 kg/m2

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