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    Default Semiautomatic & Assault rifles.

    What's that for a weapon the second guy from the left carries?
    The magazine looks strange.



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    Looks like a G.41(W) to me

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    Definately a G-41.

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    Default Semiautomatic & Assault rifles.

    Split topic from "rare guns"

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    Walther MKb 42.

    The german breakthrough therefore came when an order was given in April 1938 to develop a weapon that used the specially developed Maschinenkarabiner-Patrone 7.92x33 or Kurzpatrone, later also called Pistolenpatrone 43, that was essentially a shortened Mauser 7.9mm standard rifle cartridge filled with pistol ammunition powder. Two notable designs emerged. The first was constructed by the company Walther and was called Maschinenkarabiner 42 (W) or Mkb 42(W).



    The MKb 42 used a gas operated system and it shot from closed bolt in full atomatic fire.

    Is not sure how many were manufactured, the sources gave figures between 500-2000 rifles.

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    Panzerknacker; the whole intermediate cartridge story is quite an interesting one. Originally the job of designing the new Rifle/cartridge combination was given to Vollemer in the early 1930's and he came up with several prototypes until it was shelved in 1936 or so. Then all of a sudden Hugo Schmeisser of Heanel is approached to develop a new rifle made of as many stampings as possible around a new 8x33mm calibre. Which resulted in the birth of the MKb.42(H). For some reason Walther got in on the act too and came out with the MKb.42(W). Although it was never a serious contender it did prompt Schmeisser to change his design from a open bolt gun to being closed bolt. Which became the MP.43/1

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    Thanks for the info, incidentally I ve found several images of the Haenel variant but very few of the Walther karabiner.

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    I've actually fired the Walther MKb32(W): a very soft, slow action.
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    Great, I guess no much people had the oportunity tho actually firing this rare gun. what you mean with very soft action ?

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    The action cycled quite slowly and the recoil was soft.
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    OK, the rate of fire surely isnt much in that way.

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    You don't want an extremely high rate of fire, designers go to great lengths to reduce it in shoulder fired individual weapons.
    1884 electric cartridge. Look similar to anything?

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    Nice pictures of the G-41 walther in action.





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    The G-41 kinda reminds me of the way the F.N.-49 functions. Was the F.N. design derivative of the G? A friend, owned a sturmGewehr, and fired it on a range visit, (he wouldnt let any of us fire it, tisk-tisk,,) and also an SKS. between the two there (from my vantage point) didnt seem to be alot of difference in recoil, or noise. just by observing how the rifle moved him when firing. As it was mine, the SKS is an easy to fire rifle, with little recoil, and not alot of noise compared to the 30-06, or 8mm (non Besa)

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    The requeriment behind the G-41 was for a semiautomatic rifle with no gas holes in the barrel and with the posibility of manual operation as a normal bolt action if its automatic system failed....crazy.

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