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Thread: UK Teachers to stop teaching the Holocaust.

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    Default UK forbade Holocaust teaching.

    I think this is too much:

    Another more sample of the devastating political corecctnes wich is crippling modern societies.

    No lessons on the Holocaust


    By Telegraph Reporter

    Last Updated: 2:25am BST 03/04/2007



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    Schools are dropping controversial subjects from history lessons - such as the Holocaust and the Crusades - because teachers do not want to cause offence, Government research has discovered.
    The way the slave trade is taught can lead white children as well as black pupils to feel alienated, according to a study by the Historical Association.
    Ignored by schools: freed prisoners at the Auschwitz concentration camp

    A lack of knowledge among teachers, particularly in primary schools, is also leading to "shallow" lessons on emotive and difficult subjects.

    Some teachers dropped the Holocaust completely from lessons because of fears that Muslim pupils might express anti-semitic reactions. One school avoided teaching the Crusades because its "balanced" handling of the topic would directly contradict what was taught in local mosques.

    The report, funded by the Department for Education and Skills, said: "Teachers and schools avoid emotive and controversial history for a variety of reasons, some of which are well-intentioned.
    "Staff may wish to avoid causing offence or appearing insensitive to individuals or groups in their classes.
    "In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship."
    The researchers gave the example of one history department in a secondary school in a northern city which decided not to teach the Holocaust as a topic for GCSE coursework.
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    The report said teachers feared confronting "anti-semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial among some Muslim pupils". Christian parents at another school complained about the way the Arab-Israeli conflict was taught



    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...nschools02.xml

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    The foolish notions of some in positions of authority, particularily in education, never ceases to amaze me.
    the purpose of education is to teach the whole of a subject, concept, or idea. The tough to look in the eye parts as well as the easy to swallow parts.
    To be in fear of the responses of pupils is to undermine the entire process and purpose of education.
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    Your title is misleading, the UK hasn't forbidden holocaust teaching, a single school has taken a decision to not teach it.
    The fact that this school has taken this decision is indeed shocking, but so far it an isolated case, and considering the outrage this has cased it will probably stay an isolated case.

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    I search an alternative source and it sais this:


    Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Governmentbacked study has revealed. It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

    But you are right the title is wrong, is not forbade, is simply not teached , quite funny times we are living.

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    The Daily Mail is NOT a newspaper I would rely on without independent confirmation. Typical headlines would be along the lines of "Did Swan-Eating Immigrants Kill Diana".
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    err, it's the telegraph, not the mail.
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    Both actually, and here you got another source for the same info:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1600686.ece

    Tipical thing , in order of no to offend a minority you anoy the majority.

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    learning is life, learning about the holucaust need to be taught to jews to make them understand that not Plain Old Christens started it but Nazi Christensdid it, and the cursades is about chrisrtens wanting the holy land where jesus lived where they had to conquer many cities to get there way to go showing how good our riligion
    Sorry about spelling am just really tired and i cant put things down and to tell you the truth i have hardly any idea what i put down


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    Arrgghh, your writing is the holocaust of the orthography

    No more please, the way you wrote is as much important as the thing you try to say.

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    Spell check plugins are your friend!
    http://www.iespell.com/
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    I think this is too much:

    Another more sample of the devastating political corecctnes wich is crippling modern societies.

    No lessons on the Holocaust
    This is the cheap propogandic article in the cheapest newspaper.
    The reason why some of teachers refuses to teach the Holocaust is FAR not the Muslim's blackmail.
    The reason is the fact thet this is VERY HARd to teach the Holocaust the OBJECTIVELY.
    The any teacher who try to study this theme immediatelly meets the problems.
    For intance as we know the Zionists ( who wanted the "own jewish" lands in Palestina) colloborated with NAzy - they had the agreements that if the GErmany has won the Britain in the Africa - the Hitler presented them the Palestina.
    So its funn but when the simple jews were repressed by the Nazy who want to dispatch out all the jews form the Germany - at the same time the Zionists who wanted to send the jews to the Palestina WERE VERY IDEOLOGICALY CLOSE For the Nazy.
    They both were wanted the same- Zionist wanted the ethicaly clear Jewish Land in Middle East- The Nazy wanted the Europe without the jews
    But as we know the Britain was AGAINST to send the jews in the Middle East
    So indeed the Gerat Britain- no the NAzy was the main ENEMY of the Zionists.
    And as we all know the Zionist wished the Britain to be the defeated in the war.
    If you are the BRitish teacher - how would you say it for the kids?

    The ANY nearest JEWIS organisation bring the claim to the court as for DANGER ANTI-SEMITE .
    So indeed the any teacher who teach this Holocaust meets the dilemma- or to tech the "official version of Holocaust" (i/e the version thet the JEWS themself LET to teach) or to be the HONEST and receive the a lot of problems for his head.( probably even lost the work).
    What will you choice?
    The great example of the teacher who want to teach the true is the story of Urgen Graft.
    Did you hear about him?
    In the school where Muslim community exists the sitiation is MORE complicated.
    From one side the Muslims who feels as the victim of Zionists agressions - could not hear about any jewish claims toward the other peoples ( as the official version of Holocaust do).
    The teachers in the simular scholl is UNDER the double blackmail - from one side the "offended agressive Muslims" - from other side - the Zionists who wish to teach the ONLY official foolish version of Holocaust.
    The Teachers prefered to avoid this problem simply to ignore the teaching the Holocaust..

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevan View Post
    This is the cheap propogandic article in the cheapest newspaper.
    The reason why some of teachers refuses to teach the Holocaust is FAR not the Muslim's blackmail.
    The reason is the fact thet this is VERY HARd to teach the Holocaust the OBJECTIVELY.
    The any teacher who try to study this theme immediatelly meets the problems.
    For intance as we know the Zionists ( who wanted the "own jewish" lands in Palestina) colloborated with NAzy - they had the agreements that if the GErmany has won the Britain in the Africa - the Hitler presented them the Palestina.
    So its funn but when the simple jews were repressed by the Nazy who want to dispatch out all the jews form the Germany - at the same time the Zionists who wanted to send the jews to the Palestina WERE VERY IDEOLOGICALY CLOSE For the Nazy.
    They both were wanted the same- Zionist wanted the ethicaly clear Jewish Land in Middle East- The Nazy wanted the Europe without the jews
    But as we know the Britain was AGAINST to send the jews in the Middle East
    So indeed the Gerat Britain- no the NAzy was the main ENEMY of the Zionists.
    And as we all know the Zionist wished the Britain to be the defeated in the war.
    If you are the BRitish teacher - how would you say it for the kids?
    No disrespect to British history teachers but, if most of them are about as good as most of the rest in the English speaking world, you're assuming they know rather more than they do about this topic.

    Most teach what's in a syllabus. If it's designed outside the school, they have no say in what they cover. If it ain't there, most don't teach it, 'cos most don't know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    No disrespect to British history teachers but, if most of them are about as good as most of the rest in the English speaking world, you're assuming they know rather more than they do about this topic.
    Sure mate they know rather more than they could to say in class
    As i say the Holocaust is the infair theme- they fear to be between to blackmails- the Zionists and Muslims( I don'k know awhat is beter but i know for the sure for anti-muslims tells people at least don't send to the prison in Europe
    Most teach what's in a syllabus. If it's designed outside the school, they have no say in what they cover. If it ain't there, most don't teach it, 'cos most don't know it.
    That's right but as you could notice there is TOO mach depends from the presonal teachers approach - not only the teach the events according the syllabus but aslo and get the historical valuation of events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevan View Post
    Sure mate they know rather more than they could to say in class
    That just goes to show that the Mother Country is still smarter than her prison colony descendants down here in the Antipodes.

    Here, we get new teachers with a degree majoring in, say, English and economics which results in the idiots who run the education departments deciding that they're exactly the sort of people to teach history and geography.

    The geography graduates aren't teaching anything because nobody in their right mind gets a degree in geography, while those who do aren't in their right mind and are perfectly qualified for and immediately appointed to important positions in the education bureacracy, where they start out by deciding who teaches what where.

    This leaves a missing link in the chain so that geography is taught by history graduates while physics is taught by chemistry graduates and mathematics is taught by anyone who can actually count, which rules out economics graduates.

    It's a very complex system which only educational bureaucrats can understand.

    We're thinking of exporting it to the rest of the world, but as nobody is taught geography in schools we don't know where the rest of the world is.


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    Looks like Chevan is seeing Zionists under the bed again...
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