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    In the first half of the 19th Century the US Army issued a load for the muzzle loading muskets often refered to as "Buck and Ball. Wraped with the musket ball and powder in the cartridge paper were a few 00 buck shot sized pellets. This was prefered for fighting in forrests or the dense grass & brush swamps of Florida. I suspose it would be usefull for riot control as well.

    Earlier in the 18th Century there were still shorter barrel 'blunderbuss' type shoulder arms available onboard ships.

    Since the 1960s there has been a 'shotgun' type cartidge made for the 40mm M79 and M203 series of grenade launchers.

    At the larger scale there were the flechette or "Beehive" rounds for the 105mm howitzers. A modern version of the old 'grapeshot' of the smoothbore howitzers.

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    I believe that these shotguns like the M97 were more common with the marines in close combat in the Pacific Theatre. I am not sure with much more information then this, but i should probably research it more.
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    My choice in shotguns
    Combat:Bennelli M4 semi automatic shotgun

    Hunting:another nice benelli with single or double barel

    Jackhammer Pancor autoshotgun for the biggest animals
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    did the Germans use Shotguns?

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    did the Germans use Shotguns?
    The answer is simple, they didnt use shotguns in military roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwing55543 View Post
    Although I see soldiers in video games carry combat shotguns, I seriously doubt if Americans actually carried them into combat during the second world war. Can someone clear this up for me?
    the united states used the model 1897 trench gun mostly in the pacific

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    There were variants of the M1942 made for trench warfare, including flattening the muzzle of the weapon slightly, spreading the shot in a flattened pattern.
    These were referred to as "duckbill shotguns".

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    The only “duckbill” shotguns I have heard of were some of the modified Ithaca Model 37s used by U.S. Navy SEALs in Vietnam.

    The vast majority of shotguns issued during World War II were Winchester Model 1897 and the Winchester Model 12. The only M1942 I am familiar with is the M1942 Bayonet for the M1 Garand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawke
    There were variants of the M1942 made for trench warfare, including flattening the muzzle of the weapon slightly, spreading the shot in a flattened pattern.
    These were referred to as "duckbill shotguns".
    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie Devil
    The only “duckbill” shotguns I have heard of were some of the modified Ithaca Model 37s used by U.S. Navy SEALs in Vietnam.
    I own a duckbill shotgun, a Mossberg 500, (and therefore obviously post-war.)
    It's an interesting item though useful only for hinge removal and room clearance.
    The only other one I've seen in private hands is also a 500, and as near as damnit identical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie Devil
    The vast majority of shotguns issued during World War II were Winchester Model 1897 and the Winchester Model 12. The only M1942 I am familiar with is the M1942 Bayonet for the M1 Garand
    Yep, that's about what I figured.
    Although there were other items of kit produced with the moniker 'M1942,' eg. the Liberator, as far as I'm aware there were no shotguns called that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuts View Post
    I own a duckbill shotgun, a Mossberg 500, (and therefore obviously post-war.)
    It's an interesting item though useful only for hinge removal and room clearance.
    The only other one I've seen in private hands is also a 500, and as near as damnit identical.
    Is that Mossberg an issued combat shotgun or was it a civilian mod? I know the Mossberg was approved for military use but I have never heard of one in a duckbill configuration, just curious.

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