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    One can tell the tanks were sort of thrown together hodge-podge of available parts. It's really an ugly tank with many limitations. Still, it held the line and did exactly what it was designed for, serving as a stopgap until better, related designs could be produced (which limited the factory retooling necessary to produce the M-4).

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    The high profile wich made the center of gravity very tall continue however.

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    M3 Captured in North Afrika and tested in the Kummersdorf german proving grounds, the mm of armor are stenciled in the hull plates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Crew: 7 men

    * Commander in turret left rear
    * 37mm gunner in turret left rear
    * 37mm loader in turret right center
    * 75mm gunner in hull right front
    * 75mm loader in hull right center
    * Driver in hull front center
    * Radio operator in hull center

    The extra guy was the radio operator...not a very efficient tank, was it?
    Military radio transceivers back then were a bit fiddly to use. They operated mostly in the HF range, which, while having a good range given the right antennas, is very prone to disturbances. Also radio traffic back then was often carried out in the modulation mode CW, this means carrier wave morse code.
    Then the radios were not yet quartz stabilised, the frequencies tended to drift and needed constant adjustment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walther View Post
    Military radio transceivers back then were a bit fiddly to use. They operated mostly in the HF range, which, while having a good range given the right antennas, is very prone to disturbances. Also radio traffic back then was often carried out in the modulation mode CW, this means carrier wave morse code.
    Then the radios were not yet quartz stabilised, the frequencies tended to drift and needed constant adjustment.

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    Even in Clansman kit from the early 1980s - present, HF is a crappy frequency range to have to use. Good range, as you said Jan, but the white noise is horrible to have to listen to on radio stag and it is far more vulnerable to interference than the VHF sets.
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    The "cathedral" ...I mean M3 lee interior. the top turret Mg must had some troubles engaging entrenched infantry at short range.



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    Bump!

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    Only films featuring the M3:

    Bogart in Sahara:


    Jim Belushi remake of "Sahara"



    And there was this one, unfairly I think, comparing the M3 to a Panther:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aoMGdAJKso
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    Jim Belushi remake of "Sahara"
    I saw it some years ago, no the biggest budget but still a good movie.

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    I need to draw one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerschreckLeopard View Post
    I need to draw one...
    Then you should definitely get some extra help, this thing has a weight of almost 30 tons!
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    Reactivated. For some reason I couldn't post in the Archive room.

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    While I see they did some R&D to make the M3 into a flame tank and AAA tank, you know they should have followed the Germans ideas and turned it into a 90mm tank killer.

    That is an 'assault' tank with a forward firing 90 mm with fixed transverse. Not sure if it would have been able to fit it in the middle of the chassis, but still, taking out the 37 and .30 cal gun, should have saved enough weight to allow it, plus make it alot lower in height.

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    The thing must have been an Admiralty design, I'm almost surprised the interior pic doesnt show a telegraph..
    As for installing a large bore gun in the super structure, I'm not sure the hull could stand the strain of it. Cant use a field gun, it may not have the strength required to fire the hotter loads of A.P. shot munitions, and the recoil system will need modification,as well as the suspension. Then there is the question of ammo storage, placement for efficient loading and case disposal. It may end up looking like this inside,,,
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