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    EDIT: link was wrong see below
    I am not impressed.
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    You're not impressed with what? The search results that have nothing to do with this thread?

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    Got my link wrong ought to have been http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/10070...yria_diplomacy about Syria backing Argentina's claim to the Falklands and Argentina backing Syrian claims to the Golan Heights, I'm not impressed by Kirchner jumping into bed with the Ba'athist (sp?) Assad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visitor View Post
    Got my link wrong ought to have been http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/10070...yria_diplomacy about Syria backing Argentina's claim to the Falklands and Argentina backing Syrian claims to the Golan Heights, I'm not impressed by Kirchner jumping into bed with the Ba'athist (sp?) Assad.
    Reminds me of Oscar Wilde's comment on fox hunting "The unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable."

    There's nothing to commend either position, unless you happen to support it because of your allegiance to the cause.
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    Argentina's foreign minister Jorge Taina has expressed concern that the presence of the future King on the islands could inflame public opinion.
    The Prince, as part of his training as a search and rescue pilot with the Royal Air Force, is likely to spend three months at the helicopter base in the Falklands.
    The Duke of York, the Prince's uncle, flew helicopters in the Royal Navy during the Falklands War in 1982 during which 649 Argentines and 255 Britons died. The Argentine government surrendered on June 14 but has always maintained its territorial claim to the islands it calls the Malvinas.
    Mr Taina, asked about the significance of the Prince serving at the British military garrison on Mount Plea said: "This circumstance only serves to once again highlight Britain's ongoing military presence in land and sea areas that are part of the Argentine Republic's national territories."
    Argentina continues to claim ownership of the islands.
    The Falkland Islands posting is one of the least popular within the armed forces because of its distance from the UK and the weather in the South Atlantic, which for all but a few months of the year, is poor. The Prince would be based at the British Military base at Mount Pleasant one hour's drive from Stanley the capital.
    The garrison is manned by a force of 500 troops made up of largely members of the RAF, who support the Tornado and Sea King flights, and around 100 infantry soldiers. The troops are stationed on the islands "to deter military aggression against the South Atlantic overseas territories", according to the Ministry of Defence.
    Any decision on the deployment of the Prince will not be taken for more than two years. He will either go to the Falklands or Cyprus which also has a helicopter base.
    A spokesman for St James's Palace said the military conflict in 1982 was unlikely to have any bearing on whether the Prince would be sent to the South Atlantic garrison. He said: "We would take advice from the Foreign Office."
    The Prince's job with the Search and Rescue Force will involve the future king flying Sea King helicopters to lower a winchman to rescue those stranded at sea, trapped in floods, and on the edge of cliff tops.
    :: The Duke of Edinburgh missed his third Royal engagement in eight days yesterday.
    Buckingham Palace said that the Duke, 87, was under doctor's orders to "take it easy" after pulling a muscle in his back while carriage driving at Sandringham several days ago.
    He has cancelled engagements because he was finding it difficult to stand for long periods.
    The Duke had been due to join the Queen yesterday (tunes) to officially open the a new health centre at Dersingham, Norfolk
    But the Queen arrived alone at the £2.2m NHS facility, while the Duke remained


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/4446744/Prince-Williams-Falklands-posting-revives-tension-in-Argentina-over-ownership-of-the-islands.html
    I'm nearly sure there's a scientific term for this form of national hysteria/ nuerosis, psychosis on the part of Argentina and its inhabitants. It reminds me of the stories circulated by a certain Aryan people (LOL) about Polish atrocities against Germans and Czechs against the Sudeten Deutsch. In both those instances the people were whipped into a fantasy land that placed them far beyond reason and well into a murderous rage. Is this what has happened in Argentina? If so, they need to get help - and fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by royal744 View Post
    It reminds me of the stories circulated by a certain Aryan people (LOL) about Polish atrocities against Germans and Czechs against the Sudeten Deutsch. In both those instances the people were whipped into a fantasy land that placed them far beyond reason and well into a murderous rage. Is this what has happened in Argentina? If so, they need to get help - and fast.
    I noticed similar annoying statements of yours relating to this matter somewhere in another thread lately. Personally I find your impertinent denial of the violent death of several thousands (again: thousands, not ten of thousands) ethnic German civilians in August/September 1939 in Poland most offensive and provoking (maybe that's what you're up to in the first place). I'd suggest you hold your fire on that one and get back to the books.
    "I just ran out of ammo. I will ram this one. Good bye, we'll meet in Valhalla." - Major Heinrich Ehrler, April 4, 1945

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    Thanks, flame. I'm open to reading documented proof on this subject. I trust you are also open to reviewing well documented information regarding the Polish "attack" on the German radio station in Gliewicz. Sometimes my language is a bit acerbic, for which I apologize if it offends you. Sometimes just the truth (at least as I see it) seems provocative to readers who don't "see it that way".
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    Quote Originally Posted by royal744 View Post
    I trust you are also open to reviewing well documented information regarding the Polish "attack" on the German radio station in Gliewicz.
    As I adumbrated in my first post concerning the numbers of victims, we gotta differ between Nazi propaganda respectively staged German actions like the Gleiwitz incident and the truth.
    To suggest there were no Polish atrocities against ethnic Germans is as far away from reality as the Polish attack on the Gleiwitz radio station.
    "I just ran out of ammo. I will ram this one. Good bye, we'll meet in Valhalla." - Major Heinrich Ehrler, April 4, 1945

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamethrowerguy View Post
    As I adumbrated in my first post concerning the numbers of victims, we gotta differ between Nazi propaganda respectively staged German actions like the Gleiwitz incident and the truth.
    To suggest there were no Polish atrocities against ethnic Germans is as far away from reality as the Polish attack on the Gleiwitz radio station.
    OK, flame, thanks. I'm definitely interested in looking into that further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamethrowerguy View Post
    As I adumbrated in my first post concerning the numbers of victims, we gotta differ between Nazi propaganda respectively staged German actions like the Gleiwitz incident and the truth.
    To suggest there were no Polish atrocities against ethnic Germans is as far away from reality as the Polish attack on the Gleiwitz radio station.
    Well, flame, after beginning to look into Polish-German relations prior to WW2, I am already mired in the quicksand of claims and counterclaims. At the moment it looks like a Gordian knot that will take me a considerable time to sort through, all of which is rather off-topic to the subject at hand. But I will continue to look off-line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by royal744 View Post
    Well, flame, after beginning to look into Polish-German relations prior to WW2, I am already mired in the quicksand of claims and counterclaims. At the moment it looks like a Gordian knot that will take me a considerable time to sort through, all of which is rather off-topic to the subject at hand. But I will continue to look off-line.
    Definitely a most complex - and still sensitive issue - around here, right. I guess the only thing which is safe to say is that no involved party got away with hands completely unsoiled.
    "I just ran out of ammo. I will ram this one. Good bye, we'll meet in Valhalla." - Major Heinrich Ehrler, April 4, 1945

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamethrowerguy View Post
    Definitely a most complex - and still sensitive issue - around here, right. I guess the only thing which is safe to say is that no involved party got away with hands completely unsoiled.
    Like trying to choose between tweedle-dum and tweedle-dee, or between a bastard and a bully with a blindfold on.

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