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    one of the Leibstandarte's s.SS-Panzer-Abt 101 Tiger commanders,
    Please, notice it's name is s. SS panzer-abt 101. And its full name is
    "schwere SS panzer Abteilung"

    The ones belong to wehrmacht has the name " schwere Panzer Abteilung" and is shortened to sPz abt note there is no SS in the name like the one for the ss divisions!!

    Also another way to distinguish beteween them is by their number. All wehrmacht panzer abteilungs starts with the number 5.
    e.g sPz abt 503. All the SS panzer abteilungs start with the number 1 e.g. s. SS Pz Abt 101.

    Also for all the SS panzer abteilungs their last number in the code denotes which division they come from. e.g. s. SS Pz Abt 101 is from the 1st SS division LSSAH, s. SS Pz Abt 102 is from the 2nd Ss division 2Das Reich etc.

    Although just before the battle of the bulge the SS panzer abteilungs changed their number so they too starts with 5, they still retained the notation SS. e.g s. SS Pz Abt 101 is changed to s. SS Pz Abt 501

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    I have read that the SS did use Porsche King Tiger tanks and never as far as I know did a Porsche Tiger 1 go into production or father than that of the prototype. please correct me if I am right but as far as I know the Porsche turret did not have the great protection as the Henschel turret had if it came to protection against enemy shels hitting the turret. The Porsche turret King Tiger tanks were not in such great numbers as the Henschel King Tiger tanks. I have never see a Porsche King Tiger in a museum. Have eny of you seen one? So yes the SS did use Porsche King Tigers. Only other tank that I know of that have a turret like King Tiger Porsche turret is the Panther.

    Henk

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    Thanks! But could you tell me which SS division used the Porsche king tigers? So I can search for its paint scheme. Since i am making a model of this beast.

    oh by the way I think all of the porsche king tigers are destroyed in the battle for Normandy. So that's why there is no porsche's in the museums today. And might never be!

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    Porsche turret did not have the great protection as the Henschel turret had if it came to protection against enemy shels hitting the turret
    Well i think it depends. The shape of the front mantlet of Porsche king tigers is curved so it does have less protection against APs compared to Henschel's flat one, since Porsche's traps shots. But the sides of the turret on Porsche's have steeper slopes than that on a Henschel, so it should deflect shells better than Henschel's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani
    Quote Originally Posted by chase
    Quote Originally Posted by Dani
    No, it is not true.
    As for machine guns, each King Tiger had 2 x 7,92 mm MG
    Not Porsche King Tigers, Porsche Tiger I's.
    Check this:
    http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/...zkpfw_vib.html
    Also Tiger I had 2 MG: http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/...zkpfw_vie.html
    Huh? Thats strange. I read somewhere that Tigers lacked machine guns, allowing Russian infantry to advance right up to the Tigers and torch the crews with flamethrowers during Kursk.

    Guess they messed that up

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    Huh? Thats strange. I read somewhere that Tigers lacked machine guns, allowing Russian infantry to advance right up to the Tigers and torch the crews with flamethrowers during Kursk.
    That's a Ferdinand Tiger destroyer, which is a quick convertion of the failed porsche Tiger 1 design. A formidable anti tank weapon but it's a pitty only 90 were built.

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    Some of the Tigers 1 and King Tigers had machine guns on top of the turret as far as I know and the turret and the hull of the tank to fight of infantry.

    I am so sorry but I do not have any information of which SS divisions it was.

    Henk

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    no problem, thanks any way.

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    Regimentul 38 "Neagoe Basarab"
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    Dani you are a star, thank you for the picture. They are quite rare.

    Henk

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    Dankie Henk! :wink:
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    Do you speak Afrikaans or Dutch Dani? I Have only a few pictures of Porsche King Tigers. They are not so great. Do have some more for me please?

    Henk

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    The above picture from different view.
    http://www.panzerplatte.de/P%20VII%20technik.html

    As for Afrikaans or Dutch, no (but is good to know few words! )
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    Dani, these are a fantastics pictures, thanks!!!

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