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    Hi George,

    Seems your expertise needed once more,.
    The attached link, is this possibly another type of KNIL? as I am sure they are armed Balinese(?).

    http://www.ww2incolor.com/unknown/foreign-530606.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by gumalangi View Post
    Hi George,

    Seems your expertise needed once more,.
    The attached link, is this possibly another type of KNIL? as I am sure they are armed Balinese(?).

    http://www.ww2incolor.com/unknown/foreign-530606.jpg

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    Hi gumalangi,

    My guess is one of the American mandates. Possibly Philippines or Samoa? They appear to have American type insignia and are armed with Remington rolling-block breech-loading single-shot rifles.

    The uniforms, weapons, and insignia do not look like anything that I've seen of the KNIL.

    Just my humble opinion

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    That is why I am asking,.. the uniform, ranks and arms seems none from KNIL. However, if you ever been to bali, Black and white patch(chess pattern type) sarong, is definetely a must for men going to war, as it is considered as sacred 'gear'.

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    Hi... does anybody can give me some information about the KNIL Troops, cause my grandfather is a former KNIL, his name is PIETER ABRAHAM De Costa, Born in Indramayu west java at Oct' 20 1927, and i want to know where my grand father being duty,
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by bangalore_andy View Post
    Hi... does anybody can give me some information about the KNIL Troops, cause my grandfather is a former KNIL, his name is PIETER ABRAHAM De Costa, Born in Indramayu west java at Oct' 20 1927, and i want to know where my grand father being duty,
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    Hello Andy,

    Welcome to the forum

    If you read through this thread, you will find a lot of useful information. I posted a number of links on page 1 of this thread related to the KNIL. My grandfather was also in the KNIL.


    All the Best,

    George

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    Hello,

    I am the daughter of a former Dutch Indonesian POW. I have been longing to learn more of the history and to hear of others with similiar stories. My mother was very young at the time. My mother, her father, and mother all relocated to Holland. My mother joined the Air Force, married, and moved to the US. I was informed that because of her status as a POW she was granted amnesty. I have very limited information.
    Thank you for the opportunity to learn from others who have memories or knowledge of this era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burghout View Post
    Hello,

    I am the daughter of a former Dutch Indonesian POW. I have been longing to learn more of the history and to hear of others with similiar stories. My mother was very young at the time. My mother, her father, and mother all relocated to Holland. My mother joined the Air Force, married, and moved to the US. I was informed that because of her status as a POW she was granted amnesty. I have very limited information.
    Thank you for the opportunity to learn from others who have memories or knowledge of this era.
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    Welcome to the forum Burghout,

    My late mother had a similar background to your mother. She was also young (9 years old) when the Japanese invaded Java. Her family also moved to Holland during the post war period. She immigrated to the USA in 1957 under President Eisenhower's program for displaced persons (DP's) from WWII. She married my American father in 1958.

    We have a thread here that relates to the Dutch East Indies (present day Indonesia):

    KNIL (Royal Netherlands Indies Army)
    http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2936

    Various websites and images relating to the Netherlands East Indies and the KNIL (Koninklijk Nederlands Indisch Leger or Royal Netherlands Indies Army), the Dutch colonial army in the Netherlands East Indies (present day Indonesia).

    All the Best,

    George

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    I'm very glad to see this information about KNIL and the Dutch East Indies Campaign. Both my grandfather Han Samethini and his brother Frank served in KNIL, and were sent to the Burma Railway as POWs. Currently I am borrowing my great uncle's unpublished World War II memoir, and I've also received a copy of his wife's account of her internment at Ambawara and Banjubiru concentration camps.

    One of the soldiers in the first KNIL group photo looks a bit like my grandfather, but I'll need to compare it with contemporary civilian photos to be sure. I have a picture of my great uncle wearing his uniform on his wedding day in Bandung, Java, in June 1941.

    My mother, born in Surabaya, East Java, does not remember the Japanese occupation per se. But she recalls vividly the steady droning of massed aircraft motors as she huddled with her family in an improvised bomb shelter. As best I can tell, this was the sound of B-24s of the 380th Bomb Group, which flew at least two missions against targets in Surabaya in 1944.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin1942 View Post
    I'm very glad to see this information about KNIL and the Dutch East Indies Campaign. Both my grandfather Han Samethini and his brother Frank served in KNIL, and were sent to the Burma Railway as POWs. Currently I am borrowing my great uncle's unpublished World War II memoir, and I've also received a copy of his wife's account of her internment at Ambawara and Banjubiru concentration camps.

    One of the soldiers in the first KNIL group photo looks a bit like my grandfather, but I'll need to compare it with contemporary civilian photos to be sure. I have a picture of my great uncle wearing his uniform on his wedding day in Bandung, Java, in June 1941.

    My mother, born in Surabaya, East Java, does not remember the Japanese occupation per se. But she recalls vividly the steady droning of massed aircraft motors as she huddled with her family in an improvised bomb shelter. As best I can tell, this was the sound of B-24s of the 380th Bomb Group, which flew at least two missions against targets in Surabaya in 1944.
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    Hi Robin,

    Welcome to the forum

    Thanks also for sharing those stories. My mother's family was also there during the war. She was 9 years old when the Japanese invaded. She used to tell us about how the people in the concentration camp would cheer when the allied planes flew overhead. It gave them hope.

    My grandfather and two uncles in the KNIL became POWs. One uncle was sent to Burma to build the railway. The other uncle was sent to Japan on one of the "hell ships". They both survived the war, but have since passed away. My grandfather died at the Tjimahi POW camp in west central Java in January 1945.

    Here are some threads from our forum relating to the Dutch East Indies and the Camps that may be interesting to you:

    Civilian POWs in Indonesia WWII
    http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5265

    Various Womens' websites and stories from WWII Dutch East Indies
    http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/show...87&postcount=2

    Japanese camp commandants
    http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5582

    Camps in the Dutch East Indies: with maps
    http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/show...78&postcount=2

    Elizabeth van Kampen
    Memories of my youth and the years of the Japanese occupation in the former Dutch East Indies during World War Two
    http://www.dutch-east-indies.com/
    http://www.dutch-east-indies.com/story/index.htm

    KNIL (Royal Netherlands Indies Army)
    http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2936


    All the Best,

    George

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    Thanks for the welcome, George.

    My great uncle Frank was also sent to Japan on a hell ship in August 1944, after slaving on the Burma Railway. He recorded the names of all the POW camps he was in. My grandfather was extremely reticent about his POW experience, so I've had to reconstruct it from evidence in his scrapbooks, in published works, Frank's memoir, and contacts with Railway scholars and POW survivors.

    I'm working on a blog/biography of my grandfather. However, it needs revision with all the new information I've received from Frank's family:

    http://hansamethini.blogspot.com

    Question: Do you have any information on Fort Menari, which guarded one of the approaches to Surabaya harbor? Frank was a machine gunner there. He saw the ABDA fleet leaving port for the Battle of the Java Sea. His father-in-law was aboard the De Ruyter, and went down with her.

    About your uncle who was sent to the Railway: did he say which camps he was in? Do I understand correctly that your mother's family was in Surabaya during the war?

    - Robin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin1942 View Post
    Thanks for the welcome, George.

    My great uncle Frank was also sent to Japan on a hell ship in August 1944, after slaving on the Burma Railway. He recorded the names of all the POW camps he was in. My grandfather was extremely reticent about his POW experience, so I've had to reconstruct it from evidence in his scrapbooks, in published works, Frank's memoir, and contacts with Railway scholars and POW survivors.

    I'm working on a blog/biography of my grandfather. However, it needs revision with all the new information I've received from Frank's family:

    http://hansamethini.blogspot.com

    Question: Do you have any information on Fort Menari, which guarded one of the approaches to Surabaya harbor? Frank was a machine gunner there. He saw the ABDA fleet leaving port for the Battle of the Java Sea. His father-in-law was aboard the De Ruyter, and went down with her.

    About your uncle who was sent to the Railway: did he say which camps he was in? Do I understand correctly that your mother's family was in Surabaya during the war?

    Robin
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    Hi Robin,

    You are most welcome I must compliment you on your very interesting and professionally done blog site.

    My mother's family was living in Jogjakarta, Java when the Japanese invaded. After the war broke out, my grandfather "Otto" Frankfort was mobilized and eventually stationed in Bandung, Java, N.E.I.

    My uncle that was a POW on the Burma Railway was named Jan Frankfort. After the war, while he was recovering in a hospital, he met his future wife who was a nurse there. She was from Menado, Celebes. After Indonesia gained independence, they moved to Dutch New Guinea, raised a family and in 1962 they moved to the Netherlands. He did have some post traumatic stress and would have nightmares from his ordeal in his later years. I only knew him from my short visits to Holland on vacation. I don't know which camps he was in. My uncle passed away in the late 1980's, but his widow is still living and currently resides in Amsterdam.

    My other uncle, Jacob Frankfort, was sent to Japan on a "hell ship" but I'm not sure of the exact date. He did mention the cities where he was imprisoned, but I can't recall which ones. My cousins would probably know. He passed away in the 1990's in Orlando, Florida.

    My grandfather, O.T. "Otto" Frankfort was an Onderluitenant in the KNIL and died 24 Jan 1945 at the Tjimahi POW camp in west central Java near Bandung. His grave is number 700. The cemetery contains 4,911 graves ... they must have been dropping like flies in the last months of the war.

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    Sergeant O.T. "Otto" Frankfort at age 29 in Ambarawa, Java 1918. My grandfather enlisted in the KL (Koninklijk Leger or Royal Army of the Netherlands) in 1904 at age 15 and served to 1912. He re-enlisted in 1914 and in 1915 transferred to the KNIL (Koninklijk Nederlands Indisch Leger or Royal Netherlands Indies Army) serving 1915 to 1945. The uniform is "klein blauw tenue" (very dark blue). Later, in 1921 he was promoted to Sergeant-major, and in 1933 to Onderluitenant.

    Note: His father died in 1898 when my grandfather was 9 years old. He had one sister who was a year older and his widowed mother. It may have been a factor in his joining the army at age 15 in 1904. In 1907 his sister died. Several decades later his mother died in February 1940 at the onset of World War II.

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    Onderluitenant O.T. "Otto" Frankfort at age 48 in 1937 at a celebration of his being decorated (jubileum). This took place at the Frankfort residence by the Magazyne Van Oorlog Building in Sportplein, Jogjakarta, Java. The family of Captain Ter Stege Deikerhof lived in the house on the opposite side of the building. My grandfather had been promoted to Onderluitenant in 1933 and was still in active service in 1940 (He stayed longer in the service for the benefit of his children). Colorized by one of my younger sisters.

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    Onderluitenant O.T. "Otto" Frankfort from his Military Identification taken prior to World War II. My grandfather had been promoted to Onderluitenant in 1933 and was still in active service in 1940. After the war broke out, he was mobilized and eventually stationed in Bandung, Java, N.E.I.

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    Grandfather died at the POW camp in Tjimahi, Java, Netherlands East Indies and is buried at the Leuwigadjah military cemetery among the 4,911 graves. The Inscription GEP. OLT. INF. KNIL. = GEPENSIONEERD ONDERLUITENANT INFANTERIE KNIL

    http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=u09V3tkVk7I

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    Leuwigadjah Military Cemetery formally called Tjimahi between Bandung and Tjimahi in central Java. (Ereveld Tjimahi = Honorfield Tjimahi). From book Herdenking te Den Haag op 15 Aug 1970 EEN ERESCHULD INGELOST 25 jaar na de capitulatie van Japan: het einde van de Tweede Wereldoorlog.

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    WWII Dutch graves in the Far East.

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    I have more pics of his military records, dog tags, etc., but I am running short on time. They will have to wait until later.

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    A little on Ft. Merari: (two 40mm anti-aircraft guns were posted there)

    KNIL Artillery in 1942
    BY STELLAN BOJERUD
    http://www.overvalwagen.com/KNILartillery.html

    2nd AA Btn (A II Ld) at Soerabaja
    Fort Menari 2-40 mm
    Fort Tjowek 2-40 mm
    Fort Piring 2-40 mm
    Fort Moedong 2-40 mm, 2-20 mm, 2-12,7 mm MG
    Batoe Porong 4-80 mm
    Kampong Dawir 4-80 mm
    Perak Airbase 4-105 mm, 4-40 mm
    Monokrembang AFB 2-20 mm
    I have seen references to Fort Ngawi and Fort Van den Bosch in East-Java near Surabaya.

    It looks like you are doing some serious research on your grandfather. I wish you success on your blog/biography about him.


    All the Best,

    George

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    EDITED 19 JUNE 2008 - More information and images added per above comments:


    My grandfather's dogtag - side one: N.I. / 75608 / 1888 / BLG. O / Frankfort, Oebele T. (Theunis) / Prot. Grandfather was known as "Otto" to his wife, friends and colleagues.

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    My grandfather's dogtag - side two: N.I. / 75608 / 1888 / BLG. O / Frankfort, Oebele T. (Theunis) / Prot. Grandfather was known as "Otto" to his wife, friends and colleagues.

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    My grandfather's partial Military Records from Netherlands Archives - Retyped for clarity:



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    My grandfather's partial Military Records from Netherlands Archives - Copy of Original:



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    My grandfather's Birth Certificate - Copy of Original in Dutch with added translation to English at bottom.



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    http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastin..._uniforms.html

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    ALSO:

    Camps in the Dutch East Indies:

    Japanse burgerkampen
    http://www.japanseburgerkampen.nl/index.htm

    Kampen op Sumatra
    http://www.japanseburgerkampen.nl/Sumatra-kampen.htm

    ** Kampen op Java
    http://www.japanseburgerkampen.nl/Java-kampen.htm

    Kampen op Borneo
    http://www.japanseburgerkampen.nl/Borneo-kampen.htm

    Kampen op Celebes
    http://www.japanseburgerkampen.nl/Celebes-kampen.htm

    Kampen in Oostelijke Archipel
    http://www.japanseburgerkampen.nl/Oo...pel-kampen.htm

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    THE MAP ROOM
    http://www.orbat.com/site/ww2/drleo/.../006_maps.html

    NETHERLANDS EAST INDIES, 1935

    Sumatra
    http://www.orbat.com/site/ww2/drleo/...ps/sumarta.jpg

    ** Java - 1935
    http://www.orbat.com/site/ww2/drleo/.../maps/java.jpg

    Borneo
    http://www.orbat.com/site/ww2/drleo/...aps/borneo.jpg

    Celebes
    http://www.orbat.com/site/ww2/drleo/...ps/celebes.jpg

    The Moluccas
    http://www.orbat.com/site/ww2/drleo/...s/molukken.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin1942 View Post
    Question: Do you have any information on Fort Menari, which guarded one of the approaches to Surabaya harbor? Frank was a machine gunner there. He saw the ABDA fleet leaving port for the Battle of the Java Sea. His father-in-law was aboard the De Ruyter, and went down with her.

    - Robin
    Hi Robin,

    A little on Ft. Merari: (two 40mm anti-aircraft guns were posted there)

    KNIL Artillery in 1942
    BY STELLAN BOJERUD
    http://www.overvalwagen.com/KNILartillery.html

    2nd AA Btn (A II Ld) at Soerabaja
    Fort Menari 2-40 mm
    Fort Tjowek 2-40 mm
    Fort Piring 2-40 mm
    Fort Moedong 2-40 mm, 2-20 mm, 2-12,7 mm MG
    Batoe Porong 4-80 mm
    Kampong Dawir 4-80 mm
    Perak Airbase 4-105 mm, 4-40 mm
    Monokrembang AFB 2-20 mm
    I have seen references to Fort Ngawi and Fort Van den Bosch in East-Java near Surabaya.

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    De Ruyter class cruiser
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Ruyter_class_cruiser

    http://www.netherlandsnavy.nl/DeRuyter1.htm

    http://www.netherlandsnavy.nl/Photo_ruyter.htm



    http://www.netherlandsnavy.nl/

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    Battle of the Java Sea
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Java_Sea

    Second Battle of the Java Sea
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_...f_the_Java_Sea

    The Java Sea Campaign
    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/...ava/index.html

    Battle of the Java Sea: 27 February 1942
    http://www.microworks.net/PACIFIC/battles/java_sea.htm

    The Java Sea Battle
    http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/java_sea.html

    Battle of the Java Sea
    http://www.awm.gov.au/alliesinadvers...anese/java.asp

    Order of Battle - Battle of the Java Sea - 27-28 February 1942
    http://www.navweaps.com/index_oob/OO...I_Java-Sea.htm

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    The Fall of the Dutch East Indies, 1941-1942
    http://www.historyanimated.com/DutchEastIndiesPage.html
    Animation:
    http://www.historyanimated.com/DutchEastIndies.html

    The Japanese Invasion of the Philippines, the Dutch East Indies, and Southeast Asia
    http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/...SBS-PTO-3.html

    Battle of Java (1942)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Java_%281942%29

    The conquest of Java Island, March 1942
    http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/java.html

    The End in Java
    http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/his...hapters/22.pdf

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    Soerabaja (Surabaya)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surabaya


    1897 map

    Surabaya Tourism
    http://wikitravel.org/en/Surabaya
    http://www.eastjava.com/tourism/surabaya/

    Satellite Map by Google Earth
    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-7.28...4180&t=k&hl=en

    Battle of Surabaya (post-WWII)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Surabaya

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    I wish you continued success on your blog/biography about your grandfather.


    All the Best,

    George

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    VIDEOS:

    Colonial Dutch Army 1939 - in color
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YQsftmLO6Lk

    Features: Governor General Jhr. Mr. A.W.L. van Starkenborgh Stachouwer (formally Commander-in-Chief of the NEI Armed Forces) and his wife, Stadswacht Batavia - Townwatch Batavia (modern day Jakarta) similar to home guard or militia unit, armored cars, Brewster Buffalo fighter planes of the NEI air force, and Dutch naval ships on maneuvers.

    Original Title: Coveted East Indies
    Director: Deane ****ason
    Editor: Falkonungu (2007)
    Production date: ca. 1938-39

    This film appears MOS, but originally had sound and was produced and narrated by the radio world travel radio commentator Deane ****ason. Interesting silent portrait of cultural life in the East Indies during Dutch colonialism.
    PA8530 Coveted East Indies, The 16mm Koda travelogue, 2 reels, ca. 1938-39

    This item is part of the collection: Prelinger Archives
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    Colonial Dutch-Indies (1938-39 in colour) [Part 1 of 4]
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pWFeVQoVy1s

    Colonial Dutch-Indies (1938-39 in colour) [Part 2 of 4]
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fqENNzU5lLw

    Colonial Dutch-Indies (1938-39 in colour) [Part 3 of 4]
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jl1pJssdpu0

    Colonial Dutch-Indies (1938-39 in colour) [Part 4 of 4]
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=luMGXq2mrY8

    Original Title: Coveted East Indies
    Director: Deane ****ason
    Production date: ca. 1938-39

    A public-domain footage I found on www.archive.org - thought better share it here!

    These are scenes from the latter years of Dutch colonialism in Indonesia - and it appears much of the footage has been shot around 1938-39.

    Some interesting scenes of Menteng.
    The footage is full of street scenes, colonial lifestyles and 'orientalist' landscapes.

    http://www.archive.org/details/coveted_east_indies_1

    This film appears MOS, but originally had sound and was produced and narrated by the radio world travel radio commentator Deane ****ason. Interesting silent portrait of cultural life in the East Indies during Dutch colonialism.
    PA8530 Coveted East Indies, The 16mm Koda travelogue, 2 reels, ca. 1938-39

    This item is part of the collection: Prelinger Archives

    Producer: Deane ****ason
    Audio/Visual: Si, color
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    BATAVIA 1939
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1syhnagy2iE

    Original Title: Coveted East Indies
    Director: Deane ****ason
    Editor: Falkonungu (2007)
    Production date: ca. 1938-39

    Interesting color portrait of BATAVIA in the East Indies during Dutch colonialism.

    PA8530 Coveted East Indies, The 16mm Koda travelogue, 2 reels, ca. 1938-39

    This item is part of the collection: Prelinger Archives.
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    The Fall of Java Island, March 1942 Dutch East Indies
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qlT2UTsDgkg

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    Koninklijk Nederlandsch Indisch Leger KNIL
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu9YspavVXw

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    7 December Divisie Nederlands Indie
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bA9qrB5ygJo

    1e divisie 7 december Nederlands Indie
    Filmbeelden van de Nederlandse inzet in Nederlands Indie 1946-1950

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    1e Politionele Actie Nederlands Indie 1947
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u5-APHxW7-E

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    De zaak-Aernout (wapensmokkel en moord in Nederlands-Indi&#235
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=W7NxCttKnsg

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    Indonesia 1940 pre war oud Indië.KNIL.
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eBSeAFLw9jY

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    Kurkdjian Come to Java 1922-23 Dutch East Indies Photography
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UvAuQs8EDPs

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    Old Jakarta 1919
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tKQcVyAlKSE
    City was known as Batavia in those days.

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    1652 Van Riebeeck
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZehTAy-E0

    1652 - Jan van Riebeeck stig 'n verversingspos aan die Kaap

    Johan Anthoniszoon "Jan" van Riebeeck (21 April 1619--18 January 1677), was a Dutch colonial administrator and founder of Cape Town. He was born in Culemborg in the Netherlands as the son of a surgeon. He grew up in Schiedam, where he married Maria Cotze on 28 March 1649. (She died in Malacca, now part of Malaysia, on 2 November 1664, at the age of 35). The couple had eight sons, one of whom, Abraham van Riebeeck, would become a Governor-General of Dutch East Indies.

    Joining the Dutch East India Company (VOC) in 1639, he served in a number of posts, including that of an assistant surgeon in the Batavia in the East Indies. He subsequently visited Japan. His most important position was that of head of the VOC trading post in Tonkin, Vietnam. However, he was called back from this post as it was discovered that he was conducting trade for his own account.

    In 1651 he was requested to undertake the command of the initial Dutch settlement in the future South Africa. He landed three ships Drommedaris, Reijger and Goede Hoop at the future Cape Town on 6 April 1652 and fortified the site as a way-station for the VOC trade route between the Netherlands and the East Indies.

    Van Riebeeck was Commander of the Cape from 1652 to 1662; he was charged with building a fort, with improving the natural anchorage at Table Bay, planting fruit and vegetables and obtaining livestock from the indigenous Khoi people. In the Kirstenbosch Botanical Gardens in Cape Town there is a wild almond hedge still surviving that was planted on his orders as a barrier. The initial fort was made of mud, clay and timber, and had four corners or bastions. This first fort should not be confused with the present-day Cape Town Castle. The Castle, built between 1666 and 1679, several years after Van Riebeeck's departure, has five bastions and is made of brick, stone and cement.

    Van Riebeeck reported the first comet discovered from South Africa, C/1652 Y1, which was spotted on December 17, 1652.

    He died in Batavia (now renamed Jakarta) on the island of Java in 1677.
    (Source: Wikipedia)
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    Belofte maakt schuld Deel 1
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mjYCgTyBmoQ

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    Waarom Huil Je Toch Nona Manis
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dx8tCcK-_W0
    Performed by Rudi van Dalm and his Raindrops.
    Old song from the Dutch East Indies - my mom used to like this song.

    Other variations:
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lqIn_YOIgHY
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hasw0EJSbwk
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-b2cZHixLvU
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uMUMHqOYqL0

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    Manise, Manise
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PTwWciAfQQc
    Another old song from the Dutch East Indies.

    Other variations:
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nkYWJNP1BAo
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kLXc2RYCZFk

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    intresting footage keep posting

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    De Ruyter was a beautiful ship! I have a picture of an American cruiser that called in Indonesia during the 30s, taken, I believe, by my father who then lived at the Zuiker Fabriek Tjande, where his English stepfather was the general manager. I thought the ship may have been Dutch but it didn't look like any Dutch cruiser of the period. I submitted the photo to a naval site, and, incredibly, they identified it in a matter of hours! It was an American cruiser.

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