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    Default The best of WW2

    The following was lifted from a warfare magazine an is their poll, not mine:

    The Best Commanders

    1. Best US Senior Level Commander

    Eisenhower
    MacArthur
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    Stillwell

    2. Best Allied Senior Level Commander

    Slim
    Montgomery
    Blamey
    Crerar
    Alexander

    3. Best US Fighting General

    Patton
    Collins
    Ridgeway
    Eichelberger
    Vandegrift

    4. Best Allied Fighting General

    Zhukov
    Browning
    Freyberg
    Dempsey
    Konev

    5. Best Axis General

    Rommel
    Guderian
    Manstein
    Yamashita

    6. Best Naval Commander

    Nimitz
    Doenitz
    Yamamoto
    Halsey

    7. Best Air Commander

    LeMay
    Galland
    Harris
    Doolittle

    The Best Weapons

    8. Best Tank

    T-34
    Panther
    Tiger
    JSII/III
    Sherman

    9. Best Rifle

    M1 Garand
    M1 Carbine
    Enfield No 4 Mk I
    Mosin Nagant 91/30
    Mauser K98

    10. Best Pistol

    Browning Hi-Power
    Enfield/Webley No 2 Mark I/mark IV
    Walther P-38
    Model 1911A1
    Tokarev TT-33

    11. Best Machine Gun

    MG-42
    M1917 .30cal
    Bren
    MG-34
    M-2 .50 cal

    12. Best SMG

    PPsH 41/43
    MP38/40
    Suomi
    M1928 Thompson

    13. Best Fighter

    P-51 Mustang
    Fw-190
    Zero
    Spitfire
    Hellcat

    14. Best Bomber

    B-29
    He-111
    Lancaster
    B-17
    B-24

    15. Best Fighter-Bomber

    Mosquito
    Stuka
    Sturmovik
    P-47
    Typhoon

    The Real War Winners

    16. Best Transportation War Winner

    2.5 ton truck
    C-47
    Higgins Boat
    Jeep
    Liberty Ship

    17. Best Technological War Winner

    Enigma/Ultra
    Penicillin
    Radar
    Proximity Time Fuse
    jet propulsion

    The Fighting Front & Home Front Bests

    18. Best War Correspondent

    Ernie Pyle
    Martha Gellhorn
    Edward Murrow
    Robert Sherrod

    19. Best Photograph

    Rosenthal's Flag Raising on Suribachi
    Capa's D-Day Soldier on Omaha
    Karsh's "Angry Lion"
    Eisenstadt's VJ Day Times Square

    20. Best Combat Artist

    Bill Mauldin
    Howard Brodie
    Albert Gold
    Tom Lea

    21. Best Song (Popular)

    I'll Be Seeing You
    Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree
    It's Been a Long, Long Time
    White Cliffs of Dover

    22. Best Song (Patriotic)

    God Bless America
    Coming in on a Wing and a Prayer
    Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition
    Der Fuehrer's face

    23. Best Pinup

    Betty Grable
    Rita Hayworth
    Hedy Lamarr
    Ann Sheridan

    24. Best Novel by a WWII Participant

    The Naked and the Dead
    From Here to Eternity
    The Caine Mutiny
    Cross of Iron


    Theres a few dodgy ones in there in my opinion, what do you guys think?

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    some don't deserve mention, and many important choices are left out. Some comparisions are also meaningless.

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    Personally wouldn't put anything over the Spitfire, and the He111 over the Lanc is just ludicrous. I'd personally take a Panther over a T-34 too.
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    Still think the Colt 45(1911A1) is one of the best combat pistols ever!
    I agree with the M1 Garand choice. One ive fired one and its just awesome. 2 in just about any WW2 game is about the best weapon to pick if you want to stay alive.
    Spitfire vs P-51 is a close call but in the article the Spitfire's rank is just silly. I think the only reason the Sherman is on the list is coz there were so damn many of them.
    Totally agree with Best Transportation War Winner
    The rest of the catagories are pretty resonable.

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    Default Re: The best of WW2

    The Best Commanders

    1. Best US Senior Level Commander

    Eisenhower

    2. Best Allied Senior Level Commander

    Montgomery

    3. Best US Fighting General

    Patton

    4. Best Allied Fighting General

    Zhukov

    5. Best Axis General


    Manstein


    6. Best Naval Commander

    Nimitz


    7. Best Air Commander
    Harris


    The Best Weapons

    8. Best Tank

    Tiger


    9. Best Rifle

    M1 Garand

    10. Best Pistol

    Browning Hi-Power

    11. Best Machine Gun

    MG-42

    12. Best SMG

    PPsH 41/43

    13. Best Fighter

    Fw-190

    14. Best Bomber

    B-29

    15. Best Fighter-Bomber

    Mosquito

    The Real War Winners

    16. Best Transportation War Winner

    2.5 ton truck

    17. Best Technological War Winner

    Enigma/Ultra


    The Fighting Front & Home Front Bests

    18. Best War Correspondent

    Ernie Pyle


    19. Best Photograph

    Rosenthal's Flag Raising on Suribachi

    20. Best Combat Artist

    Bill Mauldin


    24. Best Novel by a WWII Participant

    Cross of Iron


    Edited by Gen. Sandworm for clarity. Just took out the quotes.

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    That a can't-go-wrong list since it tallys several of the best of each category. But that's OK since it is almost silly to choose one best of anything.

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    I have some doubts about Enfield/Webley being the best pistol
    and maybe the P-51 Mustang isnt the top too, but I agree with most of the others.


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    I would put the Mustang at the top of the fighters. A trully enabling piece of kit at just about the right time. It enabled the US to bomb in daylight without the horrendous losses. Imagine being a German fighter pilot and seeing them over Berlin for the 1st time!

    I'm sure they must have realised it was all over.

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    Your best naval commander is a bit lacking. My vote for the best naval commander goes to either Tanaka or Yamaguchi. None of them made your list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by temujin77
    Your best naval commander is a bit lacking. My vote for the best naval commander goes to either Tanaka or Yamaguchi. None of them made your list.
    As I said, its not my list, its what was voted for in the Armchair general magazine, I thought it would be interesting though to see what you guys thought of it.

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    The list is a bit Yankocentric- spaarating Americans from "Allies" demeans those allies.
    ommissions: How come Dowding doesn't get a mention as an air commander? Why no reference to artillery? Why no consideration of no US Allied Admirals, given the RN did fight a prolonged campaign in the Med before Pearl Harbour?

    Question: Why does the Fw190 rate above the Spit despite later marks of Spit re-establishing dominance over it?
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    I demand It's a Long Way to Tipperary to be put up as the best song of the war (even though it was in WWI too, it's just that good :P )

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