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    Since several people have recently doubted the help give by the British to the French in 1940, here is the order of battle for the British Expeditionary Force in France when the Germans attacked. The air order of battle will be added shortly:

    BEF:
    I Corps (Lt Gen MGH Barker)

    1st Infantry Division (Maj Gen HRLG Alexander)
    Divisional HQ
    1st Division Signal Regiment
    13th/18th Royal Hussars (Queens Mary’s Own)
    2nd Bn, Cheshire Regt (Machine Gun Bn)
    2nd, 19th and 24th Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
    21st Anti Tank Regiment, Royal Artillery
    17th, 23rd and 26th Field Company, Royal Engineers
    6th Field Park Company, Royal Engineers

    1st Infantry Brigade (Guards)
    3rd Bn, Grenadier Guards
    2nd Bn, Coldstream Guards
    2nd Bn, Hampshire Regt
    1st Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    2nd Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Loyal Regiment
    2nd Bn, North Staffordshire Regt
    6th Bn, Gordon Highlanders
    2nd Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    3rd Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Duke of Wellington’s Regt
    2nd Bn, Sherwood Foresters
    1st Bn, King’s Shropshire Light Infantry
    3rd Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    2nd Infantry Division (Maj General HC Lloyd)
    Divisional HQ
    4th/7th Royal Dragoon Guards
    2nd Bn, Manchester Regt (Machine Gun Bn)
    2nd Division Signal Regiment
    10th, 16th and 18th Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
    5th, 11th and 38th Field Company, Royal Engineers
    21st Field Park Company, Royal Engineers

    4th Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Royal Scots
    2nd Bn, Royal Norfolk Regt
    1/8th Bn, Lancashire Fusiliers
    4th Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    5th Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders
    2nd Bn, Dorsetshire Regt
    7th Bn, Worcestershire Regt
    5th Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    6th Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Royal Welch Regt
    1st Bn, Royal Berkshire Regt
    2nd Bn, Durham Light Infantry
    6th Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    48th (South Midland) Infantry Division (Maj Gen AFAN Thorne)
    Divisional HQ
    67th, 68th and 99th Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
    53rd Anti Tank Regiment, Royal Artillery
    224th, 225th and 226th Field Company, Royal Engineers
    227th Field Park Company, Royal Engineers

    143rd Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Oxford and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry
    5th Bn, Royal Warwick’s
    1/7th Bn, Royal Warwick’s

    144th Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, Royal Warwick’s
    5th Bn, Gloucestershire Regt
    8th Bn, Worcestershire Regt

    145th Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, Gloucestershire Regt
    4th Bn, Oxford and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry
    1st (Buckinghamshire) Bn, Oxford and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry

    II Corps (Lt Gen AF Brooke)

    3rd Infantry Division (Maj General BL Montgomery)
    Divisional HQ
    15th/19th King’s Royal Hussars
    2nd Bn, Middlesex Regt (Machine Gun Bn)
    3rd Division Signal Regt
    7th, 23rd, 33rd Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
    20th Anti Tank Regiment, Royal Artillery
    246th, 248th, 253rd Field Company, Royal Engineers
    15th Field Park Company, Royal Engineers

    7th Guards Brigade
    1st Bn, Grenadier Guards
    2nd Bn, Grenadier Guards
    1st Bn, Coldstream Guards
    7th Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    8th Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Suffolk Regt
    2nd Bn, East Yorkshire Regt
    4th Bn, Royal Berkshire Regt
    8th Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    9th Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, Lincolnshire Regt
    1st Bn, King’s Own Scottish Borderers
    4th Bn, Royal Berkshire Regt
    9th Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    4th Division (Maj Gen DG Johnson)
    Divisional HQ
    5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards
    2nd Bn, Royal Northumberland Fusiliers (Machine Gun Bn)
    17th, 22nd, 30th Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
    14th Anti-Tank Regiment, Royal Artillery
    7th, 9th, 59th Field Company, Royal Engineers
    18th Field Park Company, Royal Engineers

    10th Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, Bedfordshire Regt
    2nd Bn, Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry
    6th Bn, East Surrey Regt
    10th Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    11th Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, Lancashire Fusiliers
    1st Bn, East Surrey Regt
    5th Bn, Northamptonshire Regt
    11th Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company

    12th Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, Royal Fusiliers
    1st Bn, South Lancashire Regt
    6th Bn, Black Watch
    12th Inf Bde Anti-Tank Company


    50th (Northumbrian) Infantry Division (Maj Gn G Le Q. Martel)
    Divsional HQ
    4th Bn, Royal Northumberland Fusiliers (Machine Gun Bn)
    72nd, 74th Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
    232nd, 505th Field Squadron, Royal Engineers
    235th Field Park Company, Royal Engineers

    150th Infantry Brigade
    4th Bn, East Yorkshire Regt
    4th Bn, Green Howards
    5th Bn, Green Howards

    151st Infantry Briagde
    6th Bn, Durham Light Infantry
    8th Bn, Durham Light Infantry
    9th Bn, Durham Light Infantry

    25th Infantry Brigade
    1/7th Bn, Queen’s Royal Regiment
    2nd Bn, Essex Regiment
    1 Bn, Royal Irish Fusiliers

    III Corps (Lt Gen Sir RF Adam)

    42nd (East Lancashire) Infantry Division (Maj Gen WG Holmes)
    Divisional HQ
    51st, 52nd, 53rd Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
    56th Anti Tank Regiment, Royal Artillery
    200th, 201st, 202nd Field Company, Royal Engineers
    203rd Field Park Company, Royal Engineers

    125th Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Border Regt
    5th Bn, Lancashire Fusiliers
    6th Bn, Lancashire Fusiliers

    126th Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, East Lancashire Regt
    5th Bn, King’s Own Royal Regt
    5th Bn, Border Regt

    127th Infantry Brigade
    4th Bn, East Lancashire Regt
    5th Bn, Manchester Regt
    1st Bn, Highland Light Infantry

    44th (Home Counties) Infantry Division (Maj Gen EA Osbourne)
    Divisional HQ
    57th, 58th, 65th Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
    57th Anti Tank Regiment, Royal Artillery
    208th, 209th, 210th Field Company, Royal Engineers
    211th Field Park Company, Royal Engineers

    131st Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, The Buffs
    5th Bn, The Queen’s
    6th Bn, The Queen’s

    132nd Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Queen’s Own Royal West Kent Regt
    4th Bn, Queen’s Own Royal West Kent Regt
    5th Bn, Queen’s Own Royal West Kent Regt

    133rd Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, Royal Sussex Regt
    4th Bn, Royal Sussex Regt
    5th Bn. Royal Sussex Regt

    GHQ RESERVE

    5th Infantry Division (Maj Gen HE Franklin)
    Divisional HQ

    13th Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, The Cameronians
    2nd Bn, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
    2nd Bn, Wiltshire Regt

    17th Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, Royal Scots Fusiliers
    2nd Bn, Nortamptonshire Regt
    6th Bn, Seaforth Highlanders

    12th Infantry Division (Maj Gen RL Petre)
    Divisional HQ

    35th Infantry Brigade
    2/5th Bn, Queen’s Royal Regt
    2/6th Bn, Queen’s Royal Regt
    2/7th Bn, Queen’s Royal Regt

    36th Infantry Brigade
    5th Bn, The Buffs
    6th Bn, Queen’s Own Royal West Kent Regt
    7th Bn, Queen’s Own Royal West Kent Regt

    37th Infantry Brigade
    2/6th Bn, East Surrey Regt
    6th Bn, Royal Sussex Regt
    7th Bn, Royal Sussex Regt

    23rd Infantry Division (Maj Gen AE Herbet)
    Divisional HQ

    69th Infantry Brigade
    5th Bn, East Yorks
    6th Bn, Green Howards
    7th Bn, Green Howards

    70th Infantry Brigade
    10th Bn, Durham Light Infantry
    11th Bn, Durham Light Infantry
    1st Bn, The Tyneside Scottish

    46th Infantry Division (Maj Gen HC Curtis)
    Divisional HQ

    137th Infantry Brigade
    2/5th Bn, West Yorkshire Regiment
    2/6th Bn, Duke of Wellington’s Regiment
    2/7th Bn, Duke of Wellington’s Regiment

    139th Infantry Brigade
    6th Bn, Lincolnshire Regt
    2/4th Bn, King’s Own Yorkshire Light Infantry6th Bn, York and Lancaster Regt

    51st Infantry Division (Maj Gen VM Fortune)
    Divisional HQ

    152nd Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, Seaforth Highlanders
    4th Bn, Seaforth Highlanders
    4th Bn, Queen’s Own Cameronian Highlanders

    153rd Infantry Brigade
    4th Bn, Black Watch
    1st Bn, Gordon Highlanders
    5th Bn, Gordon Highlanders

    153th Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Black Watch
    7th Bn, Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders
    8th Bn, Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders

    1st Armoured Division (Maj Gen R Evans)
    Divisional HQ

    2nd Armoured Brigade
    Queen’s Bays
    9th Royal Lancers
    10th Royal Hussars

    3rd Armoured Brigade
    2nd Bn, Royal Tank Regt
    3rd Bn, Royal Tank Regt
    5th Bn, Royal Tank Regt
    1st Support Group
    101st LAA Anti Tank Regt

    20th Guards Brigade
    2nd Bn, Irish Guards
    2nd Bn, Welsh Guards

    30th Infantry Brigade
    2nd Bn, King’s Royal Rifle Corps
    2st Bn, Rifle Brigade
    1st Bn, Queen Victoria Rifles

    52nd Infantry Division (Maj Gen JE Drew)
    Divisional HQ

    155th Infantry Brigade
    7/9th Bn, Royal Scots
    4th Bn, King’s Own Scottish Borderers
    5th Bn, King’s Own Scottish Borderers

    156th Infantry Brigade
    4/5th Bn, Royal Scots Fusiliers
    6th Bn, Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders
    7th Bn, Queen’s Own Cameron Highlanders

    157th Infantry Brigade
    1st Bn, Glasgow Highlanders
    5th Bn, Highland Light Infantry
    6th Bn, Highland Light Infantry

    Which by my count gives the British Forces in France on 10th May 1940:
    124 Infantry Battalions
    5 Machine Gun Infantry Battalions
    12 Armoured Regiments
    23 Field Artillery Regiments
    7 Anti Tank Artillery Regiments
    23 Engineer Field Companies
    7 Engineer Field Park Companies
    13 Briagde Anti Tank Companies
    1 Support Group

    Apologies for the long list as a post, a history of the BEF will follow when I have the chance to write it.
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    Air Component of the BEF (Air Vice Marshal CHB Blount)
    ACBEF HQ

    No 14 Group (Group Captain PF Fullard)

    60 (Fighter) Wing
    85 Squadron (Hurricanes)
    87 Squadron (Hurricanes)

    61 (Fighter) Wing
    607 Squadron (Hurricane/Gladiator)
    615 Squadron (Hurricane/Gladiator)

    63 (Fighter) Wing
    3 Squadron (Hurricane)
    79 Squadron (Hurricane)

    70 (Bomber/Reconnaissance) Wing
    18 Squadron (Blenheim)
    57 Squadron (Blenheim)

    52 (Bomber) Wing
    53 Squadron (Blenheim)
    55 Squadron (Blenheim)

    50 (Army Co-Operation) Wing
    4 Squadron (Lysander)
    13 Squadron (Lysander)
    16 Squadron (Lysander)

    51 (Army Co-Operation) Wing
    2 Squadron (Lysander)
    26 Squadron (Lysander)
    81 (Canadian) Squadron (Dragon)

    Advanced Air Striking Force (Air Vice Marshal PHL Playfair)

    67 (Fighter) Wing
    1 Squadron (Hurricane)
    73 Squadron (Hurricane)
    501 Squadron (Hurricane)
    212 Squadron (Photo-Reconnaissance, aircraft type not recorded)

    71 (Bomber) Wing
    105 Squadron (Battle)
    114 Squadron (Blenheim)
    139 Squadron (Blenheim)
    150 Squadron (Battle)

    75 (Bomber) Wing
    88 Squadron (Battle)
    103 Squadron (Battle)
    208 Squadron (Battle)

    76 (Bomber) Wing
    12 Squadron (Battle)
    142 Squadron (Battle)
    226 Squadron (Battle)

    Reserve
    98 Squadron (Battle) – Held in reserve as reinforcement for the Fairey Battle squadrons.

    Sources:
    BEF Strength here
    ACBEF here
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    Good posts BDL, where did you get the info on the AASF?

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    The sources for both of them are at the bottom of the Air Component order of battle mate
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    battle of france




    Casualties were 90,000 French killed, 200,000 wounded, and 68,111 British, 23,350 Belgian, 9,779 Dutch and 6,092 Poles killed or wounded. Total allied losses including the capture of the French army amounted to 2,292,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDL
    The sources for both of them are at the bottom of the Air Component order of battle mate
    Woops!

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    Bet there were a few assholes going 5p/50p after dunkirk!!!!

    Basically we sent more men to France than we actually have at the moment!!!!

    Infact, by the look of it, manpower wise, it was about the size of todays USMC!!!!
    If you post idiocy, don't get upset if you are seen as an idiot.... I don't.

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    Seen a little on TV.

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    Thank you BDL,you must have wasted all your life in this topic!.

    and thank you for the humildity of giving apologies! ,it's nice from you part because you didn't nothing bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000ydstare
    Bet there were a few assholes going 5p/50p after dunkirk!!!!

    Basically we sent more men to France than we actually have at the moment!!!!

    Infact, by the look of it, manpower wise, it was about the size of todays USMC!!!!
    It was pretty much everything we had - the only fully equipped division left in Britain was the Canadian 1st Armoured Division. Which kind of blows the 'Britain did nothing to help France' line out of the water (the original aim of the post).

    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin
    Thank you BDL,you must have wasted all your life in this topic!.

    and thank you for the humildity of giving apologies! Laughing ,it's nice from you part because you didn't nothing bad.
    You're welcome mate

    I apologised because I know a lot of people on here hate the 'big list of something' type posts that sprung up not so long ago. I will get round to doing a history of the BEF when I get a chance, but work has been pretty hectic for the last couple of days.

    It did take me quite a while to type, couldn't get the cut and paste from the site to work properly.
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    the only fully equipped division left in Britain was the Canadian 1st Armoured Division.
    I don't think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheshire Yeomanry
    the only fully equipped division left in Britain was the Canadian 1st Armoured Division.
    I don't think so
    Educate us then
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDL
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheshire Yeomanry
    the only fully equipped division left in Britain was the Canadian 1st Armoured Division.
    I don't think so
    Educate us then
    The primary Canadian unit in the UK during this time was the Canadian 1st Infantry Division. Other infantry units followed later in the year but the first Canadian Armoured Brigade didn't arrive till June 30th 1941

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    After the fall of France, the 1st Canadian Division was the only mobile, armed and fully manned ground division in all of the British Isles, and defence against a German invasion might have fallen squarely on it.
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    After Dunkirk, the 1st Canadian Division was the only formation in Britain with enough equipment to meet the German armies.
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    The 1st Canadian Infantry Division was formed at the outbreak of war, received elementary training and was in place in Britain by Feb of 1940. Following the Dunkirk evacuation, the 1st Division was the only fully equipped, fully manned and fully trained division in the south of England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheshire Yeomanry
    Quote Originally Posted by BDL
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheshire Yeomanry
    the only fully equipped division left in Britain was the Canadian 1st Armoured Division.
    I don't think so
    Educate us then
    The primary Canadian unit in the UK during this time was the Canadian 1st Infantry Division. Other infantry units followed later in the year but the first Canadian Armoured Brigade didn't arrive till June 30th 1941
    Ok, the 1st Canadian Division were the only fully equipped unit in Britain after Dunkirk
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    Well the difference between a Infantry Division and a Armoured one is worthy of correction.

    I also understand that the Cavalry/Mech component of the 1st Infantry Division actually stayed in Canada. So though the division was complete in that nothing had been lost in combat,not all of the division had actually sailed to the UK in the first place

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