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    I don't disagree with the essence of your comments, but how do you respond to the comment that Japan was defeated on the water as much as, or more than, on the land? And in the air from water-borne planes?

    Coral Sea saved Moresby.

    Midway tipped the balance.

    USN in various engagements saved Guadalcanal.

    USN in Philippines enabled MacArthur to land.

    USN in central Pacific allowed the island campaign there.

    The ground war was horrible, but the naval war allowed the ground war to advance toward Japan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurkmensch View Post
    I don't disagree with the essence of your comments, but how do you respond to the comment that Japan was defeated on the water as much as, or more than, on the land? And in the air from water-borne planes?

    Coral Sea saved Moresby.

    Midway tipped the balance.

    USN in various engagements saved Guadalcanal.

    USN in Philippines enabled MacArthur to land.

    USN in central Pacific allowed the island campaign there.

    The ground war was horrible, but the naval war allowed the ground war to advance toward Japan?
    As I said 4 battles defeated Japan, 3 of them Naval.

    Midway was the one you could highlight. If she fell and fell cheaply the other 3 would of been fought on different levels than what they were.
    however once she survived the other 3 became as important as eachother and each as unique.

    I was pointing out macarthurs involvement when the war was up for grabs, after that it was a question of time and casulties before Japan was utterly defeated.

    There's alot of stuff out there about Macarthur hardly known about that went on in his early days as supreme allied commander, also some misgivings about the Phillipines invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladensburg View Post
    MacArthur did very well in the WWII Pacific, it's just that he seemed to lose it a bit in Korea which rather ruins his mystique.
    Actually, MacArthur should have been court-martialed. He allowed his entire air force in the Phillipines to be destroyed on the ground when it was already known for a considerable number hours that the Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor. He was like a deer caught in the headlights, frozen stiff.

    General Marshall said to him, "General, you don't have a staff, you have a court." Macarthur was a megalomaniac of the first order - he brooked no one gainsaying him and promptly fired or demoted anyone who dared to. The Pacific War, as if anyone needs reminding, was fundamentally a navy war and was mostly won by the navy. if the navy hadn't decisively defeated the Japanese not 6 months after Pearl Harbor at the Battle of Midway, Macarthur would still be treading water off the coast of New Guinea. In this context, Korea fits right in. He never spent a single night in Korea during that war. Imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsy View Post
    There's alot of stuff out there about Macarthur hardly known about that went on in his early days as supreme allied commander, also some misgivings about the Phillipines invasion.
    Well, the Phillipines probably would have had to have been invaded at some point in time, but it may not have been necessary to do so in order to defeat Japan. What I find really reprehensible about Macarthur, in addition to the comments I made earlier, is that he passed the buck to General Wainwright, on orders to be sure, and then actively opposed Wainrwright receiving any kind of recognition or a medal which congress wanted to accord him! What kind of man sends another to certain defeat on [I]his[I] orders, relegates him to three years of Japanese prisons, and then opposes his getting any kind of recognition at all? A very, very small man, indeed.

    Macarthur, lest we forget, had an ego larger than this planet. He called, sneeringly, Eisenhower, "one of the best chiefs of staff I ever had" when he was seething with jealousy that it was Eisenhower who was picked to run for President when he Mac was convinced that he should have been chosen. LOL. We make heroes out of midgets sometimes.

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    my father served as a front line combat soldier in the 1st Cavalry Division, 5th Cavalry Regiment. He saw MacArthur four times: once in Australia, next on Los Negros Island, then on Leyte and then in Manila. "One of the bravest men, I've ever seen" was my father's assessment.

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