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    Genkidescan Question:


    The member "genkidescan" ask for some info about the 11,35 mm and 20 mm Madsen in Argentine use.

    The caliber 11,35m Mgs wre used mostly for aircrafts, for example the Custiss 750 purchased by the Army Air Force in 1938 had one MG of this caliber shooting tru the propellers, the other 3 wre of 7,65mm caliber.




    Madsen 7,65mm and 11,35 mm.





    Also one coaxial Madsen heavy MG were mounted in the medium tank Nahuel in 1944.

    Nahuel DL 43.

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    And yes, the ammo for this were produced locally, at list in 3 types , ball, armor piercing and incendiary proyectiles, the HE is not listed.

    The 20 mm Madsen gun were used only as AAA emplacements but only saw limited service.


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    Argentina Military Photos
    Argentina soldiers setting a FN MAG machine gun.

    Argentina TAM Tank

    Argentina Military looks pretty interesting.
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    Hello Panzerknacker,

    thanks for the informations about Madsen. Is it possible to get some closer informations -may be about headstamps and color codes of the ammunition.


    Thanks

    Genkideskan

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    Ja.

    Ball ammo, manufactured in FM ammunition factory Puerto Borghi.




    Stamp, FAMMAP means Fabrica Militar de Municiones y Armas Portatiles, Military factory of small arms and ammunition.





    Kynoch made UK, "panzerbrechenden" ammunition. Steel core, green point. Used by the Argent. Army Air Force in 1940.




    Stamp. year 1938.



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    Wow,

    nice stuff - Thanks a lot Panzerknacker

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    There was also a cartridge that might be interesting to you, the 7,65x61 Argentine Navy wich was designed for the navy varinat of the Browning B.A.R in 1919.

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    Hello,

    well a 7,65 x 61 is unknown here - a pic and some more informations wouldt be great. Do you have any argentinian ammo regulations for trade?

    Thanks a lot and best regards

    genkideskan

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    You got it:




    Stamp in U.S made ammo, the M.A is for "Marina Argentina", even the more correct therm would be "Armada Argentina"








    For collectibles trade contact ACAAM. the association Argentine of cartrigde colectors.

    http://www.aacam.org.ar/contactenos.htm

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    Hello,

    thanks againe, very useful informations.

    Thanks a lot

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    You re welcome.


    Two more vids of the old Carrier 25 de Mayo in operations, mid-1980s:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-fBL6JHi18


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrn7U...related&search=

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    Argentine icebreaker catches fire, evacuated. All 296 crew members rescued after naval vessel’s generator malfunctions

    BUENOS AIRES, Argentina - The Argentine navy’s icebreaker caught fire in South Atlantic waters off Patagonia, but all of its 296 crew members were safely evacuated, the armed forces high command said Wednesday.
    Fire broke out in a generator area of the Almirante Irizar late Tuesday off Puerto Madryn in southern Argentina while returning to its base in Buenos Aires, a communique said.

    The accident occurred some 930 miles south of the Argentine capital, and Capt. Guillermo Tarapow ordered the crew to abandon ship in 24 lifeboats when flames became uncontrollable, the statement said.

    All were safely picked up hours later by an oil tanker and a fishing vessel that rushed to the area, in chilly South Atlantic waters approximately 40 miles off Puerto Madryn.
    The statement did not say what caused the fire and did not report any injuries.
    The Almirante Irizar was acquired by the Argentine navy in 1978 and has played key roles in transporting military personnel and scientists to and from bases that Argentina operates in Antarctica. It also has been involved in rescue other missions in the region.




    Honestly seeing the fire damage I dont think there was many oportunities to the Almirante Irizar, two frigates were sent to the zone to make some towing attemp.

    The Captain Guillermo Tarapow is the only crew wich remain in the Ship. Quite a guy, he had risen above the general mediocrity.








    The official bulletin say there is not in danger to sink, but who knows.

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    Which one is the veteran? The Skipper or the boat?
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    The icebreaker actually.


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    That is what i thought.

    You had another Ice Breaker, Bahia Paraiso, also during the Falklands that was also used as a Hospital Ship, and Troop ship to bring troops to the Island and ship them off.

    She sank in 1989, turning turtle.

    The prognosis on the Almirante Irizar looks a little bleak though.
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