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    TG.

    Thanks again, old friend.

    I recognise the bottom gun in your picture, but not the top one. Is the top one a hand held version of the 105mm howitzer?

    Back to the original topic on how the world is coping with coronavirus and related issues, given the appalling conduct of many people in many countries, not least my own, on trivial issues like panic buying toilet paper, I don't think it's going too far to predict massive social disintegration and even severe violence if things get really bad with a huge proportion of the population infected. For example, what happens when hospitals and related services can't cope with demand and infections result in not enough people to provide food along the whole chain from farm to transport to shops? Who might not inflict serious violence on others or kill to save themselves or their families to get scarce food? And more so when the criminal thugs start to oppress the rest of us to get what they want and deprive us of the necessaries of life?

    If this worst happens, this could be a good time to be:
    1. Well concealed;or
    2. Well armed, or,
    2. if you're of the hippie inclination that all mankind is inherently good and kind, a perfect time to sing Kumbaya and make everything just peachy again.
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    The beast at top in the picture is a S&W .460 V and can easily I hope, deal out a Funnel Web . I bought it pretty much because it was so large, I have large hands, so can handle it well enough. I chose that caliber, over the .50 S&W Mag. because one can use a variety of less thunderous ammunition in it. My favorite for it is the Venerable .45 Long Colt, it can also digest .454 Casull, .45 auto-rim (just a .45 acp with a Rimmed case so it can more easily be fired in the Army .45 revolver, no need for moon clips. It's a bit weighty, but that helps me keep fit. (somewhat)
    As for the decline of civility in a Crisis, already here in the States, thieves have been raiding Transport trucks parked at truck stops, and way side rest stops, chopping the locks off, and seeing if there is anything inside worth stealing. It's not a wide spread problem, just a few localized incidents. My thought is that long term public shaming of those who buy up everything, and then sell at 300% markups on Ebay etc. as well as loss of the Ill Gotten Gains. (Unjust enrichment in the local legal code) For the Crims, well a long term of penitent Prison time at labor beneficial to those they sought to victimize is a good beginning.
    Remarkably, the demeanor of the people hereabouts is relaxed, and not at all rude, or uncivil. Everyone waits their turn, buys only what they need, so far, so good. In a few weeks this will pass by hopefully, and we can all get back to work, and living. I'm not expecting anything that would cause a Mad Maxian sort of society, but sale of firearms, and munitions has greatly increased in many parts of the U.S. The good part of that is that they are also seeking training in the use of what they are buying, so no ignorant use will result. So far, everyone is polite, and plain decent to each other. Makes me happy. Hoping that doesn't change. (though I never discount the human ability to turn off it's Higher Cortex in the face of true danger.) As the saying goes: "When in trouble, or in doubt, run in circles, scream, and shout" Keep well my good friend RS* be safe, and smile.
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    I believe that local and State Police here are already effectively guarding the local truck stops. I'm sure, but I think truck stop restaurants and facilities are open and have a bit more leeway than other bar/pub/grille/restaurants here. They had a news package yesterday on a local major truck stop off the I90 that still had shower and locker-room facilities for truckers and of course they can still get take out food as well as beer and even liquor.

    As far as the firearms discussion, I have been thinking of getting a shotgun (12 gauge) for sometime. But I now am looking at semi-auto carbines firing 9mm or .45ACP as they are NY legal with smaller magazines but are effectively semi-auto SMG's ideal for home defense that will not over-penetrate and do much damage to walls and nearly civilians. I'll be getting my pistol permit as well..

    Here's a Ruger one that looks like a burg gun!
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    The Pistol caliber Carbines are becoming very popular now, and there are many on the market. Even something that you can snap a Glock into that will let it handle like a Burp Gun. That Ruger looks like a good choice, get lots of magazines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    The Pistol caliber Carbines are becoming very popular now, and there are many on the market. Even something that you can snap a Glock into that will let it handle like a Burp Gun. That Ruger looks like a good choice, get lots of magazines.
    Yeah, they have to be 10 round mags to be NYS compliant, which I'm fine with, I don't even need 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    The Pistol caliber Carbines are becoming very popular now, and there are many on the market. Even something that you can snap a Glock into that will let it handle like a Burp Gun. That Ruger looks like a good choice, get lots of magazines.
    Yeah, they have to be 10 round mags to be NYS compliant, which I'm fine with, I don't even need 10

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    Best to err on the side of capacity, keep 3 or 4 mags around. These days home invaders are not often just an individual, but small groups of 3-5 people, which makes a very different situation to defend against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    As for the decline of civility in a Crisis, already here in the States, thieves have been raiding Transport trucks parked at truck stops, and way side rest stops, chopping the locks off, and seeing if there is anything inside worth stealing. It's not a wide spread problem, just a few localized incidents. My thought is that long term public shaming of those who buy up everything, and then sell at 300% markups on Ebay etc. as well as loss of the Ill Gotten Gains. (Unjust enrichment in the local legal code) For the Crims, well a long term of penitent Prison time at labor beneficial to those they sought to victimize is a good beginning.
    Iím not aware of that sort of conduct here, but I consider it about the same as looting after major disasters like hurricanes and bushfires. Buying ridiculous quantities of food and other supplies isnít much different. Not unknown in some times and places to shoot looters on sight, but it's probably a bit extreme to shoot people at supermarket checkouts because they have a 20 pack of toilet rolls when a 10 pack seems more than fair. Still, such a practice would definitely see a lot more toilet rolls left on the supermarket shelves. And a lot more raiders disinclined to raid supermarkets.


    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    Remarkably, the demeanor of the people hereabouts is relaxed, and not at all rude, or uncivil. Everyone waits their turn, buys only what they need, so far, so good.
    Until a fortnight ago I'd spent the last couple of months working on our beach shack in an area with a fairly small population about an hour away from the nearest parts of our capital city, and two to three times that away from most of the capital. I shopped daily for dinner and everything was fine, until a few weeks ago I suddenly found the place empty of the usual raider items of toilet paper, tissues, paper towels, eggs, most meats, etc. Turns out that busloads had come down from the capital to raid.

    I've spent the last couple of weeks working on another project in a major regional city about the same time away from the capital in the opposite direction. Same happened here. Spoke to a bloke working on my place yesterday and found out that the same had happened in his town, about another hour further away.

    Plenty of reports from other places of similar raids by busloads coming up from the capitals in our major states.

    Can't comment on what's happening in other states, but what our news media isn't reporting that I've heard from eyewitnesses to these bus borne raids is that they're Chinese, or at least of similar appearance, which is entirely consistent with the Chinese local locusts who've been raiding our shops for the past few years for baby formula and other items to send back to China at great profit, not least because the Chinese locally produced stuff isn't like our reliable quality. That is, our stuff is guaranteed not to kill or even harm the baby, unlike some of the crap made in China.

    No doubt the media have, quite reasonably in difficult times, chosen to avoid inflaming tensions in the community by avoiding any reference to the origin of these raiders, the same way the media often (unreasonably, in my view) avoid reference to the origin of a particular ethnic group which comprises a tiny, tiny part of our population but is responsible for the vast bulk of the explosion in violent home invasions and carjackings, which were crimes almost unknown here 5 or 6 years ago outside criminal on criminal offences.

    As usual, itís a few percent at the bottom of the barrel who cause most of the trouble.

    Unlike USA, I gather from limited sources that there hasnít been much of an increase in gun sales here, possibly because in my state thereís nominally a 28 day delay in getting a permit to acquire a specified gun but often longer thanks to administrative delays, and this coronavirus thing has only got serious in the public mind in the past few weeks. I heard a gun shop owner in a country town today saying heíd been cleaned out of ammunition and other items such as camping equipment, which suggests that some people with guns are preparing for bad times.

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    Different to preparing for armed Armageddon, a mate in a huge hardware chain told me today that their sales of vegetable seedlings have gone through the roof in recent weeks.

    Seems that there's a bit of a lack of understanding by buyers of how long and when their vegetables are due to produce edible results, assuming that first time urban farmers get a crop at all.

    Probably not much different to people who've been bulk buying flour, but never cooked bread or cakes or pasta from scratch. (Experimenting for the impending lockdown, I made some damper* tonight, which reminded me why I don't like the taste of the raising agents in self raising flour.)

    * https://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recip...ecipe/vjqvsg8t
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    ...Not unknown in some times and places to shoot looters on sight, but it's probably a bit extreme to shoot people at supermarket checkouts because they have a 20 pack of toilet rolls when a 10 pack seems more than fair. Still, such a practice would definitely see a lot more toilet rolls left on the supermarket shelves. And a lot more raiders disinclined to raid supermarkets.

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    Yeah! You should really wait until they go to their cars at the parking lot..

    Seriously, some idiots that bought too much toilet paper here are now trying to return them to places like Walmart, and be told to **** themselves it's theirs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Yeah! You should really wait until they go to their cars at the parking lot..

    Seriously, some idiots that bought too much toilet paper here are now trying to return them to places like Walmart, and be told to **** themselves it's theirs...
    I have yet to figure out the obsession with hoarding toilet paper, of all things.
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    Hard to say why they chose that particular commodity to lose their minds over, but then, panic isn't a reasoned behavior. Some stores here are stocked fine again, others are still working on it. A friend of mine who works at a Walmart Store said that they had a limit of 2 packs /person, and some woman was incensed that she couldn't take 3, and showed her outrage by throwing the 3rd pack at my friend before storming off. This was 4-5 days back. Most people are just fine, and deal with the temporary situation.

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    For a bit of lighthearted fun, a video for your amusement.
    https://youtu.be/I3xpRZITi2w

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    For a bit of lighthearted fun, a video for your amusement.
    https://youtu.be/I3xpRZITi2w
    Good one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Seriously, some idiots that bought too much toilet paper here are now trying to return them to places like Walmart, and be told to **** themselves it's theirs...
    Same here, with no refunds on the panic bought items. Some people will probably have their toilet paper disintegrate before they get around to using it many years into the future. I hope it disintegrates when they're using it.
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