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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    Also, to counter Soviet heavies, and whatever they might come up with later on. (You are a very clever People Chevan, so we had to keep an eye on you all. )
    if we are clever- why are we telorate the Putin then? It's very complicated...
    The "T" designation for a U.S. Tank is used only during development, the "M" given after it is adopted as a final design and approved for production. I didn't want you to be confused by that Chevan since sometimes the numbers used are the same as those of Soviet military. (like the T-34) Pics of our T-34, and Soviet T-34
    There is no confuse mate The tank above was called the M-29. That is fully logically ,as it folows after the M-26

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevan View Post
    A tentative plan? But the Germans never had enough ships to invide even the Britain, an japs never sailed further the Australia
    Of course it was a fantasy, based on the conquest of the USSR, capitulation of Britain and a whole host of unlikely events. I was just saying the only way these designs would see combat was if the war came to them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    ...While some of these projects did bear fruit enough to rate a limited number of vehicles to be built "just in case" none of them went very far. Some of these did contribute to the development of the M-103 program.
    It seems the M103 suffered from a lot of teething problems and simply wasn't as efficient as medium, or main battle, tanks. Especially after the 105mm gun came online. But I'd like to know you're opinion of them or if you served with any former crewmen...

    Post War, it was eventually decided that Heavy Tanks were not the best use of resources on a large scale, so the MBT developed as we have seen, till technology allowed the likes of Challenger, the Abrams, Merkava etc. to be built, and operated successfully. (at least until someone develops something even newer to send them to the recycle bin. ) The never ending game of Measure - Counter measure.
    I believe the U.S., Soviets, and British all came to that conclusion around the same time. The IS8 was probably the only heavy tank that saw combat (by Egyptian forces against Israel), but while it had some short lived initial success because of the thick armor, they eventually overheated or taxed their drive-trains and were easily outflanked. The World of Tanks game is the only place where the post war heavies seem to do well...

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    I have watched videos by the Mighty Jingles, and agree that the Heavy/super heavies do well only when physics do not apply.
    none I know personally was crew for a 103, it would have made for some good stories over a beer or two. I would have loved to get aboard one, even crew one for awhile, but they were out of service with the Army by then. I did see a couple as displays at Ft. Knox, very impressive up close. As you say Nick, once the L-7 gun showed up with its modern munitions, the need for heavy Tanks evaporated, and they became dinosaurs fit only for looking at. It did always seem to come down to drive line issues with the big ones, no one ever figured out how to keep them moving. These days the Turbine does the job, and whatever they use for a transmission, but even the turbine may disappear now that a good Diesel is available for the Abrams don't recall details, but it sounded good from the article I read. This would be a huge help to the Abrams, and increase its time between refills tremendously.

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    It just occurred to me that it would be unlikely you met any 103 crew, because I think only a few dozen were in service at any time. The Marines actually operated a lot more of them (200?). What they were to do with a heavy tank with no range I have no idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    I believe the U.S., Soviets, and British all came to that conclusion around the same time. The IS8 was probably the only heavy tank that saw combat (by Egyptian forces against Israel), but while it had some short lived initial success because of the thick armor, they eventually overheated or taxed their drive-trains and were easily outflanked.
    It was Is-3 actually. The Is-8 ( T-10 as it was named in army) never exported abroad i.e. out of soviet block. The last more or less combat where the Is-8 had participated was in Prague 1968.
    And again ,the weight-classification vary in NATO and out - US still use the 54/57-tonns Abrams as mass prodused main battle tank. This is definetally heavy ( even if to look at the german ww2 standards). The ours most heavy tank never weight more then 52 tonns. The only Is-7 was 68 tonns but it never come out of prototypes.
    The World of Tanks game is the only place where the post war heavies seem to do well...
    Not only the heaviest but futuristic as well

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    Few years ago.
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