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    Following his bare survival in New Hampshire, Jeb Bush seems to have "activated" a family resource, bringing brother and former President George Bush Jnr into the battle. George Jnr seems, in any case, to have been a bit hacked off by various comments on his Presidency on the part of the Don. I gather that Georges Snr and Jnr both remain popular with many Republicans, so this could be significant. It needs to be. Jeb badly needs a success of some sort in Nebraska and/or North Carolina. Will the emergence of his brother improve his chances ? Time will tell.

    I am a bit of a politics buff, and find US politics fascinating. I also find them largely incomprehensible. I think I have a better idea as to how things in North Korea. I am willing to entertain the view that populism has its place in politics. However, whether on the grounds that he is most plausible candidate the Republicans can offer in the General Election, or whether it is a question of who is best qualified for the Presidency, there would appear, at least to me, a very strong case for selecting Jeb Bush. Instead, we seem to have a slate of populists, lorded over by - Gods help us - Donald Trump, someone with no relevant experience and a tendency to spout poisonous nonsense. Not that populism is exactly unknown where I am (we have a General Election here in the Emerald Isle, and the way things are going ... oh never mind, too depressing). But Trump ?

    Anyway, I will be interested to see whether North Carolina might be a turning point. No predictions to offer, though ... Yours from South Fork, JR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR* View Post
    I think I have a better idea as to how things in North Korea.
    Certainly better than some of the ostensibly intelligent, but ultimately full of vacuously articulate bullshit, dullards who are entitled to and probably will vote for Trump, largely because North Korea's fat boy hereditary thug boss won't be on the ballot paper.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=33D3NOl0-ag


    Edit: Forgot to add adulatory photos of Kim Thingy. Here they are.


    Kim Thingy builds apartments.






    Kim Thingy takes a dump in the field. Guards (a) measure and record world beating turd record and (b) ready themselves to protect his glorious shit from his starving people.







    Jubilation by Kim Thingy as his world record turd is confirmed.






    Jubilation goes over the top into fat boy turd love, to puzzlement and envy of emaciated factory worker watching Dear Leader hugging his own shit, rather like Trump but without the funny hair. Okay, without the comb over. They're both funny hair men.






    Satisfied with his world record and with no more use for his shit, Kim Thingy allows his world beating shit to be sold to his starving people in handy lunch pack sizes, pointing to turdlets and saying proudly "I did that.", which is duly recorded for posterity by stenographer who writes down all his shit statements.






    Kimmy the Thingy pimps his ride.






    Thingy the Kim inspects North Korea's world beating military technology.






    Alien Monster tries to flee Kimmy Thingy. Monster taken out the back and given a few 9mm in its neck shortly after.






    Kim the Dim responds to Putin's action man on horseback.





    And, just for the record, I don't plan on visiting North Korea, ever.
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    Well, for good, or Ill, Trump may yet win the nomination for the Republican Presidential Candidacy. 'Round these parts, the thought is that Jeb bush is just another luke warm administrator type, showing no difference from the other two before him. Hillary, aside from being more likely to be indicted than nominated, is not trusted by enough idiots to carry the Primaries. Add to that, the same failing the Bush's suffer from, the U.S. has had enough Clintons in office already. So the "Outsider" idea is favored at present as the best source of a better President. My personal favorite was Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana. Anything can happen yet, still plenty of time for decision making.

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    I have a weakness for luke warm administrative types. They may not come across well on the back of a trailer - but they often know how to do the job once they get it ... Another week to go to our general election here in the Emerald Isle. Oh Gods ...! JR.

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    Sad thing is that Jeb may be perfect for the Job, but the tepid nature, and memorable gaffs of both Father's, and Brother's Administrations have branded him. Not easy to get past that, but possible if he can stand out, and show he has what it takes, and will not be a continuation of his relatives Presidencies. Dynasties have fallen from favor in the U.S. so it will be a tough road for Jeb bush. Still, anything can happen in the remaining Months, so keep the popcorn ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    Well, for good, or Ill, Trump may yet win the nomination for the Republican Presidential Candidacy. 'Round these parts, the thought is that Jeb bush is just another luke warm administrator type, showing no difference from the other two before him. Hillary, aside from being more likely to be indicted than nominated, is not trusted by enough idiots to carry the Primaries. Add to that, the same failing the Bush's suffer from, the U.S. has had enough Clintons in office already. So the "Outsider" idea is favored at present as the best source of a better President. My personal favorite was Bobby Jindal, Governor of Louisiana. Anything can happen yet, still plenty of time for decision making.
    The beauty / fatal flaw in your system is that you elect a supreme leader who is not a member of Congress and who can be hamstrung by a hostile Congress or just one of the Congress houses being hostile, not to mention there being no requirement of party discipline or unity from his own party to support him or, possibly, her.

    The beauty / fatal flaw in our system is that we elect the equivalent of your two house Congress and choose our supreme leader from the lower house, where he or she can be hamstrung by their own party (three prime ministers = your presidents, more or less, deposed by their own party in the past few years) despite supposedly strong party discipline and unity from his or her own party, never mind a hostile upper house where the government in the lower house has the majority.

    This doesn't happen in a country run by a strong man free of silly democratic ideas who even knows how to control the current bear market.

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    He has his own problems, and probably wouldn't win with the way the media portrays him, but I would prefer Ted Cruz over Donald Trump. You have to say one thing for Cruz. He campaigned here in TX on listening to his constituents and won. Everything he campaigned on, he's pretty much kept his word to his constituents, can't say that about many once they get to Washington, DC.
    "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same." - Ronald Reagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    The beauty / fatal flaw in your system is that you elect a supreme leader who is not a member of Congress and who can be hamstrung by a hostile Congress or just one of the Congress houses being hostile, not to mention there being no requirement of party discipline or unity from his own party to support him or, possibly, her.

    The beauty / fatal flaw in our system is that we elect the equivalent of your two house Congress and choose our supreme leader from the lower house, where he or she can be hamstrung by their own party (three prime ministers = your presidents, more or less, deposed by their own party in the past few years) despite supposedly strong party discipline and unity from his or her own party, never mind a hostile upper house where the government in the lower house has the majority.

    This doesn't happen in a country run by a strong man free of silly democratic ideas who even knows how to control the current bear market.

    That's why we need good ole Abe Lincoln back, he would be a good adversary for Putin, as would Teddy Roosevelt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by navyson View Post
    He has his own problems, and probably wouldn't win with the way the media portrays him, but I would prefer Ted Cruz over Donald Trump. You have to say one thing for Cruz. He campaigned here in TX on listening to his constituents and won. Everything he campaigned on, he's pretty much kept his word to his constituents, can't say that about many once they get to Washington, DC.
    From what I've seen in the "Media" (for what it's worth) Cruz has broader support than Does Jeb Bush at present, and that could carry him through to November. Trump has public recognition in his favor, and is running on his not being Obama, Hillary, or Sanders. With so many Primaries yet to be held, it's still too early to tell.

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    I see in the Media that Jeb Bush has withdrawn from his Campaign for the Presidency, so it's a no go for the Bush Dynasty. Despite a fairly narrow win in Nevada, Mrs. Clinton (aka Hildabeast) is losing ground overall. For the present, despite his flaws, Trump is the favorite on the Conservative side, while Sanders leads by not being Clinton, or Trump. (As much as Trump leads by not being Clinton, or Sanders. ) Sadly, this is American politics as the Meme World sees it.
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    Burned Out, I suppose. I am sure that the Don is hoping that at least two rivals will stay in the field as long as possible ... Yours from a golf course, somewhere in Kerry... JR.

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    Might I suggest that, for all his objectionable faults, Trump is a breath of fresh air as is, to a lesser extent, Bernie Sanders, the very, very small S socialist.

    I think the success of each of them so far demonstrates how tired the electorate is of politicians who just modify whatever true beliefs they have to satisfy the focus group / professional political adviser determined middle ground to avoid offending anybody who might possibly vote for them.

    That's not just a US problem but one that applies, I suspect, to all Western democracies. It certainly applies here, where we get to choose between Tweedledum and Tweedledee who agree on about 95% of everything they could do in government but promise to change the other 5% to usher in a new dawn of abundance and joy, and consistently fail to do so.

    Trump has the rare luxury of using his own money, so he doesn't have to answer to anybody.

    If you want to see how this worked out in Australia with another loudmouth supposedly using his own money and who, fortunately, didn't have a chance to run the country:
    http://www.news.com.au/national/poli...9662dbe72bd231

    Good luck, America!
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    Very true RS* , the American Public is well fed up with professional/Career politicians. Far too many fakes, and snake oil salesmen among them, but the plain fact is that far too many citizens fall for the BS and vote for them. (we call these the Kool-Aid Faithful ) or the old name yellow Dog Democrat / Republican as they would vote for a yellow dog if it had a sign around its neck saying it was one or the other. I blame the voting Citizens for the politics of today, they do no research, show little in the way of values, or are fascinated by the shiny things the politicians offer them in exchange for their votes, and can't or won't see through the manipulation. Good luck to us is right, but it does seem that people here are finally starting to see what they have done, and what it has cost them, so maybe, (just maybe) voters will use their heads as more than a hat rack this year.

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