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    Quote Originally Posted by aly j View Post
    Feel the same way with liberals and liberal stupid propaganda. It's like speaking to a brick wall... the reason why trump was voted in over a puppet liberal leader such as hilliary clinton. She was far out of touch with the average American person, plus she spoke left drippled crap that came out of her mouth, people went F ya.... we want trump.... and I don't blame them. Also many African Americans voted for trump... they too are so sick of liberals crap.
    The most surprising result of the US election is the previously unknown breadth and depth of knowledge in Australia about who voted for Trump, and why.

    Beats me why the Yanks bother with their own polling etc when they could ask any Australian caller to talk back radio and letters to the editor about why he won.

    Admittedly, there is no consistency in the wildly divergent views of these Australian experts on a nation most of them have never visited and about an electoral system of marvellous complexity which none of them understand, but when has accuracy ever been required in political commentary? Or abilty, knowledge, justice and honour ever been required to advance oneself in politics?

    Quote Originally Posted by aly j View Post
    Now all we need in Australia is for Pauline Hanson to become PM.
    Yeah, that's certainly all we need.

    The professional politicians in the major and minor parties have half way f**ked this country for the past thirty years or so, so why don't we let a bigoted amateur of modest intelligence and little knowledge completely f**k it?

    Might as well go out with a bang as with a whimper.


    For those outside Australia who fortunately are unaware of Pauline Hanson, she's a one trick pony who 20 years ago got herself elected on the threat of Asian immigration and other ill-informed bigotry destroying Australia, but has had a recent epiphany and now sees Muslim immigration as the real threat along with her usual other ill informed bigotry which is well received by people who don't like to analyse issues and events or propose constructive solutions to social, political and economic problems but prefer to find scapegoats they can blame for everything that upsets them.

    Surprisingly, the late Pauline still speaks to us from the grave, after being assassinated a couple of decades ago for expressing her views to a hostile nation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q_comd-IOQ

    OOPS! She got a bit carried away there. Along with most of her other self-important, self-indulgent, ill-informed rants and bile. Apparently nobody could be bothered getting rid of her, which is a real pity when she'd gone to all that trouble to make her martyr 'voice from the grave' video.

    The beauty of Australia is that not only do we tolerate these ornaments of lucid thought and expression, but we actually elect them to our national parliament to demonstrate that by electing dopes like her as well as the dopes in the major political parties we are an equal opportunity electorate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aly j View Post
    Feel the same way with liberals and liberal stupid propaganda. It's like speaking to a brick wall... the reason why trump was voted in over a puppet liberal leader such as hilliary clinton. She was far out of touch with the average American person, plus she spoke left drippled crap that came out of her mouth, people went F ya.... we want trump.... and I don't blame them. Also many African Americans voted for trump... they too are so sick of liberals crap.

    Now all we need in Australia is for Pauline Hanson to become PM.
    Hi alyj you vacuous ****ing pinhead...

    I was never a big fan of Hillary, but she actually won the popular vote by a significant tally of 3 million. Trump was able to exploit the electoral college narrow margins in battleground states and the ****ed up U.S. system. It probably will never happen again and the Republicans will get a lesson in "be careful what you wish for" and permanent opposition party status by 2020...

    I might also add the KGB did Drumpf some favors with their Wikileaky hacking, but our own FBI with that **** 911-Ghoulinani probably did the most damage along with Fakenews© from the Balkans...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aly j View Post
    Like Churchill... Responding to nick fresh drunk post
    I doubt I was drunk you simpleton. But you'd better watch your step here or else it's back to the "Holocaust denial" site you bumpkin from down under!

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    Not a realistic assessment of our electoral college system.
    It is a fair checks and balances method of assuring the vote is spread rather than affected by certain concentrations.
    An example is the 3 million votes. They seem mostly to come from California with a huge population of illegals who were questionably given voting rights.
    They have a vested interest in maintaining democratic control.
    They do not represent the thinking of our overall population.
    If you look at the overall picture, you will find that Trump won across the board in the country overall.
    Most Americans are sick and tired of the encroachin socialistic mindset supported by democrats.
    They basically believe the government is all, and that all should come from the government.
    That creates and perpetuates the victim and entitlement thinking.
    This has become a tremendous issue in our society here.
    I considermyself a constitutional conservative rather than a republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post

    I was never a big fan of Hillary, but she actually won the popular vote by a significant tally of 3 million. ...
    I think the final tally in California, Oregon and Washington state gave her the popular vote. Especially California. That's why we need the electoral college, so the more populated states can't determine elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by navyson View Post
    I think the final tally in California, Oregon and Washington state gave her the popular vote. Especially California. That's why we need the electoral college, so the more populated states can't determine elections.
    What's wrong with the majority of the people in the nation deciding who is President, regardless of the state they live in?

    Down here we have this bizarre preferential voting system http://www.aec.gov.au/Voting/counting/hor_count.htm which can result in a candidate with less than 1% of first preference votes being elected. This system routinely results in our national conservative governments being elected by a smaller number of voters than the losing major party, so for a lot of the time we're governed by people most of the nation didn't vote for. (We also have compulsory voting - well, strictly, just compulsory attendance at a polling station to get your name marked off the electoral roll - so it's a pretty fair guide to what the majority of the electorate voted for, and didn't get.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by forager View Post
    Not a realistic assessment of our electoral college system.
    That's your opinion, mine is that it is and shouldn't exist...

    It is a fair checks and balances method of assuring the vote is spread rather than affected by certain concentrations.
    No. It was never about concentrations, it was about not allowing the "unwashed masses" to elect a demagogue, ironically...

    An example is the 3 million votes. They seem mostly to come from California with a huge population of illegals who were questionably given voting rights.
    Completely bogus, "fake news" assertion that has no factual basis...

    They have a vested interest in maintaining democratic control.
    They do not represent the thinking of our overall population.
    If you mean the Democratic party, it needs to be capitalized. Otherwise I'd like to assume most people want democracy to control the governmental system...

    If you look at the overall picture, you will find that Trump won across the board in the country overall.
    I have no idea what this means. He won select countries mainly populated by high school educated working class whites. That's not the "overall" population...

    Most Americans are sick and tired of the encroachin socialistic mindset supported by democrats.
    They basically believe the government is all, and that all should come from the government.
    That creates and perpetuates the victim and entitlement thinking.
    This has become a tremendous issue in our society here.
    I considermyself a constitutional conservative rather than a republican.
    Yu seem to be speaking for yourself here, but the Republicans are just fine with "entitlements" as well...

    We don't actually have anything nearing 'socialism' but a mixed economy, and "conservatives" (as well as liberals) are controlled by special interests and have little regard for the constitution when it doesn't suit their point of view...

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyson View Post
    I think the final tally in California, Oregon and Washington state gave her the popular vote. Especially California. That's why we need the electoral college, so the more populated states can't determine elections.
    So? Should we take away your vote if you live in Texas? Kid of bullshat IMHO...

    Deciding who gets to vote based on perceptions of geographic political bias is sort of, well, fascist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    So? Should we take away your vote if you live in Texas? Kid of bullshat IMHO...

    Deciding who gets to vote based on perceptions of geographic political bias is sort of, well, fascist!
    Suppose my vote was taken away the election of '08 and '12, still abided by the founding fathers designs.
    Who decided who could vote? Everyone who cast a vote voted!
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