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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    After careful and extensive research, the ever inventive USMC has developed an effective microchip treatment for this problem. It is based on existing, and therefore quite affordable and readily deployable, technology. It also achieves Islamic bliss for the terrorists, so it's a win / win.
    A very good technology,and from what I hear, 100% effective. My thoughts are that ISIS, (or whatever they call themselves at home these days) does have an H.Q. town, and several strong hold towns in various places. Seems to me that use of MOAB's or some conventional Warhead ICBM's would easily provide a broadband communication service with God. Chase them into the open, and then send them to see God personally.
    It would be helpful if news footage of the missiles being launched from various Nations were played so that any stragglers could see for themselves that the entire planet was out to get them, and why. The time for subtleties has long passed, its time to go play Cowboys, and ISIS.

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    I don't know, RS* - I have looked at some stills from the infamous video, and the sight of a fellow human being enveloped in flames is particularly harrowing, at least for me. What next - the Death of a Thousand Cuts ? Viking-style "eagle" executions ? Torn apart by ferocious dogs ? Hanging, drawing and quartering ? They have already crucified a number of victims; some, perhaps, for being Christian, or in some other way "apostate" from the loony version of Islam espoused by ISIS. And if this is the trajectory, should the western media not report it because it is designed as a sort of distraction for ISIS battlefield defeats ? The people of the world need to know these things. Whatever the ISIS nutters may think, I have just about enough faith in human nature to believe that most people will be repelled and disgusted by such acts - very much not excluding the vast majority of Sunni Muslims.

    Regarding Brendan Behan (referred to some way back), it prompts one observation. The IRA is an organization of fairly homogenous social background. However, it is obvious that there will be differing levels of commitment and competency among "volunteers". There are commanders; under them active volunteers; under them collaborators (supplying safe houses, logistics and so on). There is a fourth group - a cadre of, shall we say, "heavies" who would, for example, enforce "community justice" largely through intimidation, but occasionally through violence, in areas under IRA influence. This was not confined to Northern Ireland. I have direct knowledge of this level of activity in Dublin, though I do not think this level of operation is "active" at the moment - politically inconvenient, you know.

    I suspect that Brendan Behan was a man hovering between the "active volunteer" and the "heavy" level, perhaps close to the latter. He clearly had sufficient knowledge of active "volunteer" activity to enable him to write his later work.

    One amusing comment on Behan I recall from somewhere - it was the observation, on Behan's lengthy record of imprisonment, that he had spent "more than eight years behind bars". One might observe that he spent rather longer in front of bars, leaning on them ... Yours from the Irish Writers' Museum, JR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JR* View Post
    I don't know, RS* - I have looked at some stills from the infamous video, and the sight of a fellow human being enveloped in flames is particularly harrowing, at least for me. What next - the Death of a Thousand Cuts ? Viking-style "eagle" executions ? Torn apart by ferocious dogs ? Hanging, drawing and quartering ? They have already crucified a number of victims; some, perhaps, for being Christian, or in some other way "apostate" from the loony version of Islam espoused by ISIS. And if this is the trajectory, should the western media not report it because it is designed as a sort of distraction for ISIS battlefield defeats ? The people of the world need to know these things. Whatever the ISIS nutters may think, I have just about enough faith in human nature to believe that most people will be repelled and disgusted by such acts - very much not excluding the vast majority of Sunni Muslims.
    I agree.

    The more ISIL's barbarity is publicised, the greater should be the determination of most of the rest of the world to rid the planet of these abominations.

    In the unlikely event that happens, the rest of the world can then turn its attention to other infestations of abominations in various parts of the Middle East, Africa, Asia, and South East Asia, and at the same time deal with the sources of much of this barbarity in Iran and Saudi Arabia, among others.

    Alas, I'm not holding my breath for any of this to happen.
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    ISIL and their affiliates have now taken to beheading groups of hapless Egyptian guest-workers in Libya, and rounding up Syriac Christians in their core area of operations. I am coming around to the view that these terrorists are so, so good at making enemies that they vanish under the sheer burden of hatred towards them in time. Surprising, since ISIL seems to be run by intelligent, well-organized people, that this does not seem to have occurred to them. One wonders whether they are at all serious about establishing their "Caliphate" - or are they only interested in eventual, fully-fledged martyrdom ? JR.

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    Those savage barbarians are not a complete new in human history. Their crimes against innocents are not too a complete new in contemporary era. The new is the hugeness of their cruelty, the vastness of their hate against everything and everyone Muslims inclused. This missed from dark ages... And a bad new is too the crazyness (or worse: the dark interests) of some western countries that, already in the past, have refurbished and feeded up these cutthroats.
    Here their last prowess:
    http://www.lastampa.it/2015/02/26/mu...YJ/pagina.html
    http://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/mondo..._2059459.shtml

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    Paris.

    And how badly has ISIS been going on home ground lately?

    I repeat my view that ISIS goes viral for publicity when it's losing on its home ground.

    What does ISIS achieve by Paris, and the various pin*****s it will inflict on Western nations in future?

    Just makes it look bigger, and more powerful, than it is, when it's losing on home ground.

    Here's a thought or three.

    France lost, from memory, something like 20,000 civilians following D Day.

    Given ISIS's Saudi sponsored Sunni death cult determined to kill everyone who isn't ISIS or of their primitive mentality then, apart from a few unfortunates such as sex slaves held by ISIS, everyone in its occupied territory is ISIS. Which makes it a free fire zone, and with vastly less innocents killed than in France after D Day.

    Yes, there are all sorts of historical and cultural and other aspects to explain why the Middle East and Central Asia are shitholes of unsurpassed misery. Some of those reasons relate to Western intervention in those areas, but in the end the fact remains that they are shitholes because of the religious and cultural practices of the locals which are entrenched in their ancient beliefs and practices unaffected by Western influences.

    The Taliban didn't shoot and try to kill Malala Yousafzai because of Western oppression. They did it because their version of Islam and local culture can't stand the idea of girls being educated. Probably because it would make girls better educated than than the male drones who think it's a good idea to kill schoolgirls. And possibly the same male drones whose cultural practices extend to raping boys as part of their magnificent culture.

    As far as I'm concerned, these bastards all live in a free fire zone.

    But, no, the major powers don't see it that clearly. For example, Western soldiers were prohibited from stopping Afghan warlords engaging in their ancient tradition of anally raping young boys.

    The Western powers support rather than condemn the seventh century Islamic regime in Saudi Arabia because of its oil, while simultaneously condemning the seventh century Islamic regime in Iran.

    If ever there has been a post-WWII time for a total war it's against Islamic state, and a modest force of Western powers could show these bastards what it's like to be on the wrong end of a total war.

    But it won't happen because the West will restrain itself on various politically correct and national advantage grounds.

    In which case, the West deserves everything that ISIS et al will deliver to it as part of their total war over the next few decades, or centuries.

    Meanwhile, rather than wiping out ISIS, Western nations devote their resources to the rather ineffectual task of trying to identify resident and incoming 'terrorists' (i.e. religiously inspired mass murderers) as just dealing with the pin*****s rather than the factory making the pins.
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    Since the good old Roman approach of flattening/burning/enslaving/killing is, for various reasons, impractical for the "intervening powers" in Syria and Iraq etc., I am not in favour of further "intervention". This is likely to be inadequate and counter-productive, on all recent evidence. That having been said, following the utterly dastardly events in Paris (one of my favorite cities, apart from Dublin), I did entertain the idea that it would be nice if the French could round up a brigade composed of their (rightly) feared paratroopers and Foreign Legionaries - the lads who have been holding much of North Africa together in recent years - and drop them right in the middle of ISIS-land. The poisonous towelheads would never know what hit them ... Vive la France ! JR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR* View Post
    Since the good old Roman approach of flattening/burning/enslaving/killing is, for various reasons, impractical for the "intervening powers" in Syria and Iraq etc.,
    Not so much impractical, as politically and economically unattractive to Western nations persisting with their morally ambiguous attitude to the Saudis etc etc in pursuit of economic advantage.


    Quote Originally Posted by JR* View Post
    I am not in favour of further "intervention".
    Neither am I, on the qualified basis that it would be the West doing its usual 'fight with one or both hands tied behind its back' and wasting time, money, resources and worst of all our people on pointless feel good exercises like bringing democracy to cultures which won't accept it before the end of the current century, if ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by JR* View Post
    This is likely to be inadequate and counter-productive, on all recent evidence.
    Only because the West hasn't fought a total war since WWII, and accordingly has lost either every war or every post-war occupation since. EDIT: Exclude Falklands, which was pretty much a total, and successful, war by Britain on a small scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by JR* View Post
    I did entertain the idea that it would be nice if the French could round up a brigade composed of their (rightly) feared paratroopers and Foreign Legionaries - the lads who have been holding much of North Africa together in recent years - and drop them right in the middle of ISIS-land. The poisonous towelheads would never know what hit them ... Vive la France ! JR.
    Exactly what I've said to many people in the past few days.

    Of course, the FFL isn't what it was in the 1950s and 1960s when it had some really hard bastards from WWII, many not from an Allied background.

    What the French really need is to unleash the WWII Goums against ISIS.
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