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    Very true RS* I have met former potential adversaries, and never have I felt animosity toward them, nor they me. As you said, we were just soldiers, doing a job we didn't want, or create. I recall being in East Berlin, and the Warsaw Pact Troops, and the Vopos were all smiles, and peace signs (unless you pointed a camera toward them, then the stone face came out. ) When we would cross at Check point Charlie, one would come on the Bus to check I.D.'s and as often as not attempt to trade belt buckles, insignia etc. for American Cigarettes. Didn't seem to me to be the blood enemy type, just another kid like us doing what he was told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    ... just another kid like us doing what he was told.
    And that is the essence of war. Young blokes full of piss and vinegar manipulated or conscripted by much older people, mainly men, to believe that they are doing the work of their god or tribe or nation, without realising that almost always the older people are just advancing their own or their nation's interests which rarely confer any benefit on the young men, and increasingly young women, and usually work against the interests of those young people who bear the brunt of wars.

    There is no nation which ever lived up to its recruitment promise of a land fit for heroes upon return from war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    .... Didn't seem to me to be the blood enemy type, just another kid like us doing what he was told.
    The appearance is deceptive You too ,TG looks like another one breaded good soul. If not to take in mind your deadly military arsenal at home)))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    And that is the essence of war. Young blokes full of piss and vinegar manipulated or conscripted by much older people, mainly men, to believe that they are doing the work of their god or tribe or nation, without realising that almost always the older people are just advancing their own or their nation's interests which rarely confer any benefit on the young men, and increasingly young women, and usually work against the interests of those young people who bear the brunt of wars..
    Amen. So we don't need to kill each other- better to kill own gowenments. A bit of anarchy couldn't to harm..

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    I don't remember correct, but seems i linked you , honored and peace-loved gentlemens the link to the brilliant notes of former air corp of Kwantung army , prisoner of war in GULAG, the Kiuchi Nobuo site . His story in Gulag looks much like a little novel. Wery interesting for reading. For those of you , who still think there were a dath-camp in Syberia. The Kiuchi has told an interesting story of international relations, troubles, grief and joy - i almost start to think he spend his best years in Syberia)) He just a inner-strong kind man with honor - even nkvd's personal of camp looks friendly and positively in his pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevan View Post
    Amen. So we don't need to kill each other- better to kill own gowenments. A bit of anarchy couldn't to harm..
    I'm all in favour of getting rid of governments. The problem is that they'll be replaced by the next lot of power seeking arseholes. What we need to do is identify the politician gene and breed it out.

    The problem with anarchists is that they're just as hypocritical as mainstream politicians, as shown by one of the anarchist groups in my city who have formed a club, which is the antithesis of anarchy.

    http://mac.anarchobase.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevan View Post
    The appearance is deceptive You too ,TG looks like another one breaded good soul. If not to take in mind your deadly military arsenal at home)))
    Hi Chevan old Friend, I just saw this, pardon the delay. My dread deadly Arsenal is not quite so Dread, I use my rifles only for amusement at the range ,all in good fun. But, if the unthinkable should happen, I guess my stable of shootin' irons will do to help keep my State secure. (Maybe a resurging Germany will try to take over Milwaukee's Strategic Beer production resources ) I hope you, and yours are all well, and safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    ... if the unthinkable should happen, I guess my stable of shootin' irons will do to help keep my State secure. (Maybe a resurging Germany will try to take over Milwaukee's Strategic Beer production resources )
    A Germany?))) Forget about Germany - Romney said the Russia is a threat.Media try to pose , the Vlad Putin, seems , planns the invasion into somewhere middle of USA) So wait for me in a dinner with beer soonWith a current cource of ruble/dollar - the only the way for poor russian like me to visit the friends in USA - to take part in military invasion there))))) What a time we live now!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    I'm all in favour of getting rid of governments. The problem is that they'll be replaced by the next lot of power seeking arseholes. What we need to do is identify the politician gene and breed it out.
    They still will seek a power- untill you will have finally eliminate the state's beurocracy.i/e the State itself
    The problem with anarchists is that they're just as hypocritical as mainstream politicians, as shown by one of the anarchist groups in my city who have formed a club, which is the antithesis of anarchy.
    Yes , they looks hypocritical and .. somewhat mentally barbarian, but they at least honest. Unlike those ba..rds mainstream politicals who cower their meannes by pseudo democratic political demagogy and false promises, they never going to carry out. The Bob Black advocates. The second one amazing american ( after David Duke)who turned over my political represents.
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