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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    It may well be just plain ball ammo, I did some looking, and ball ammo was manufactured for some uses. If it were an incendiary round, it would take a purposeful hammer blow to set it off. (no fusing, just an impact thing) So as long as you don't go beating on it it should be fine. Propellant powders for the .50 were of the typical smokeless types, some of which can still be purchased today for hand loading one's own .50 BMG ammo. No Cordite, or Black Powder was used. Cordite could be used, it was used in the .55 cal. Boys Rifle ammo. (one can use 50 BMG cases in a Boys, if they are necked up to .55 from .51 ) Black powder would not produce enough pressure, and quickly foul the gun.

    Hi tankgeezer

    Not into ammo in a big way really, just picked a few up as they come along, my main interest has been with WW1 British Army, now into WW2, British and American Armies. got to do something to keep the old brain ticking over, I do have a couple or 18pdrs and 25pdrs, and one "I think" a amour piercing 25pdr, don't worry they are all safe

    Chunky

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyson View Post
    Hi Chunky! Just curious, flamethrowerguy is from Germany, and they find all kinds of stuff over there. Even 500-1000 lb. bombs!
    P.S. Nickdfresh gave it away!
    Hi navyson

    Go to France and Belgium driving, and you could many years ago, find relics laying around, well not always just laying never been to Germany,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chunky View Post
    Hi tankgeezer

    Not into ammo in a big way really, just picked a few up as they come along, my main interest has been with WW1 British Army, now into WW2, British and American Armies. got to do something to keep the old brain ticking over, I do have a couple or 18pdrs and 25pdrs, and one "I think" a amour piercing 25pdr, don't worry they are all safe

    Chunky
    I used to have an artillery round collection,even had an example of a fired 8" howitzer round. (a dug up from a testing range. ) it was filled with wax, and still weighed around 200 lbs. As time went by people just kept offering me good sums of money for them, so they are all gone now. Its a great hobby, more interesting than stamps, and just as varied. People in my area occasionally find shells, and round shot from the Civil War, buttons, and bullets too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    I used to have an artillery round collection,even had an example of a fired 8" howitzer round. (a dug up from a testing range. ) it was filled with wax, and still weighed around 200 lbs. As time went by people just kept offering me good sums of money for them, so they are all gone now. Its a great hobby, more interesting than stamps, and just as varied. People in my area occasionally find shells, and round shot from the Civil War, buttons, and bullets too.
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    I use to collect stamps, I sold some of my WW1 items off, sometimes for good money and some not for good money, still got some good items left thought, 100th Anniversary next year, hoping to put on a exhibition, once found a toffee apple mortar by Serre Road Cemetery, it was by the side of the road, parked the in front of it, I give it a little kick, not much of one. found lots of shrapnel balls, spent empty cases, some still with cordite, take a strand out and light it, its like a sparkler, spent 18pdrs shells, two badges, and what's left of a 303 SMLE, which when out there, made sure it was safe, all this was a good few years ago now, tend now to just visit. I'm taken photo of my 25 and 18 pdr later, will try and post them, in new topic.

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    The thing with collectible objects like stamps, currency, Art, tools, and weapons, is that they usually represented the best their respective societies had to offer at the time. That provides a unique snapshot of what humanity was up to, and who they really were as a People. To me anyway, things made by the hand of a People say more about them than what may be found written in History books. (which are also important.)

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    You could say that collectors like us, in a small way, keep history alive, I've been collecting for a long time, and met many a friends in doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    Hi Chunky, and welcome! If the measure tape is in both inches, and Metric, going by the upper scale, you have a cartridge for the Browning M-2 .50 caliber MG. The headstamp SL 42 is that of the St. Louis Ordnance Plant in Missouri, the "42" is the year of production. The St. Louis facility was a division of Western Cartridge company, and also produced the .30 cal rifle cartridge (30-06) and war production for both of these cartridges at S.L. totaled some 6.7 Billion rounds. There were about 13 other Companies also producing this cartridge during the War. (It was very popular)
    I have as well found a head stamped SL 42, however it clearly is a 30-06 round. One thing puzzles me, the tip is painted black, is this some kind of early armor piercing round?Click image for larger version. 

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    Hi Archaeodigger

    Thank you for your help on this, see Originally Posted by tankgeezer; (Quote; also produced the .30 cal rifle cartridge (30-06)), not sure of the black tip though,

    Chunky
    Last edited by Chunky; 01-21-2014 at 07:45 AM.

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    The black tip paint did denote a hard Steel cored armor piercing bullet. This tip color was used on all A.P. ammo up to .50BMG into the 70's,(perhaps to the present day) including the 5.56x45 round of the M-16. (although at some point this was changed to a green tip, no idea why though.)
    U.S. markings from the 30's to the 70's was pretty much Black= armor piercing,
    Red = trace
    Silver = Incendiary
    These marks may be combined if the round incorporates more than one feature. Ammunition made for other Nations would have their own marking system applied. With the advent of NATO, munitions, and their markings began to be standardized.
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    Hi tankgeezer, Thank you for posting this extra information, and I hope you didn't mind me using you Quote. Chunky

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    Its perfectly okay to quote my posts Chunky, no problem at all.

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