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    I am translating a bunch of Luce films, some of them very interesting beside the propagandistic tone.This is quite unique:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=860_1344868217

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    Assault engineers at el Alamein, september 1942. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=24f_1344706098

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzerknacker View Post
    Assault engineers at el Alamein, september 1942. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=24f_1344706098
    First time I have seen how they operated the Brixma Model 35 mortar/grenade thrower, quite rapid fire as well.

    Even in a propaganda film they could have given the blokes weapons to carry though, in most shots the majority had no weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leccy View Post
    First time I have seen how they operated the Brixma Model 35 mortar/grenade thrower, quite rapid fire as well.

    Even in a propaganda film they could have given the blokes weapons to carry though, in most shots the majority had no weapon.
    Maybe they'd shoot the camera crew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickdfresh View Post
    Maybe they'd shoot the camera crew?
    Nah when we did training films we all carried weapons (we tried to find some mug to fire our rounds though so we would not have to clean our gats), still posed for the camera's though
    IN the days of lace-ruffles, perukes and brocade
    Brown Bess was a partner whom none could despise
    An out-spoken, flinty-lipped, brazen-faced jade,
    With a habit of looking men straight in the eyes
    At Blenheim and Ramillies fops would confess
    They were pierced to the heart by the charms of Brown Bess.

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    The assault engineers usually didnt carry rifles but pistols and explosive charges, some of them use flamethrowers and that could be seen on video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzerknacker View Post
    The assault engineers usually didnt carry rifles but pistols and explosive charges, some of them use flamethrowers and that could be seen on video.
    Seems odd to not carry long arms or rapid fire weapons when you are doing an assault or trench raid, even if it is just simulating an attack on a MG position. It looked around 1 in 5 carried a rifle and hardly any had any web kit or packs for anything. Having done assaults as a Sapper they seem very very lightly armed and equipped.

    It was obviously a staged propaganda film because of the camera positions, so maybe they just had what was required to stage the show.
    IN the days of lace-ruffles, perukes and brocade
    Brown Bess was a partner whom none could despise
    An out-spoken, flinty-lipped, brazen-faced jade,
    With a habit of looking men straight in the eyes
    At Blenheim and Ramillies fops would confess
    They were pierced to the heart by the charms of Brown Bess.

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    The costly capture of Bir hacheim, following the Ariete armored Division in may-june 1942.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bb3_1345657170

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    Interesting footage, especially showing how the Italians made use of giant wooden carts, or wagons, to ferry tanks to the battlefield...

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    Probably easier to ferry thna german tanks given its relative light weight. Not such a strong wagon was needed.

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    I was reading that around 150 of those trailers with their attendant tractor units could pretty much move a whole Italian Armoured Div in one lift.

    Interesting battle against the (mostly) Free French.
    IN the days of lace-ruffles, perukes and brocade
    Brown Bess was a partner whom none could despise
    An out-spoken, flinty-lipped, brazen-faced jade,
    With a habit of looking men straight in the eyes
    At Blenheim and Ramillies fops would confess
    They were pierced to the heart by the charms of Brown Bess.

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    Yeap, notice the large quantity of sudanese and indian troops also captured. Brand new Flak train given by Hitler to Mussolini. July 1940. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d25_1346775747

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    Light Flak carriages designed to accompany Hitlers and other senior Nazi's trains to provide air defence, these are the two carriages given to Mussolini on 22nd July.
    IN the days of lace-ruffles, perukes and brocade
    Brown Bess was a partner whom none could despise
    An out-spoken, flinty-lipped, brazen-faced jade,
    With a habit of looking men straight in the eyes
    At Blenheim and Ramillies fops would confess
    They were pierced to the heart by the charms of Brown Bess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leccy View Post
    Light Flak carriages designed to accompany Hitlers and other senior Nazi's trains to provide air defence, these are the two carriages given to Mussolini on 22nd July.
    It was the gift of the Fuhrer for the Duce's birthday (28th of July).

    Anyone has perhaps the original text in English of this execution of Italian patriots? ( http://www.ww2incolor.com/dramatic/i...artireRSI.html )

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_mDU...eature=related

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    Hello to all, to answer Nickdfresh, it is necessary to know that the tank transported here was the M11/39 whose weight didn't pass 9 tons, what explains why those were transported here by truck. For what is PanzerCknaker movies thank you to have them under titled in English, but they are necessary to know that a lot is movies of propagandas and the Luce institute was on the subject a master. Many are reconstitutions made aprés the facts, one sees it very well because of the position of the cameras. But it remained always interesting trés because it permits to make itself an idea on such or such use of the used at the time materials.

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