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    So sorry I dug this thread up from its tomb. Thoughtless of me in the circumstances.

    Of course appearances do differ, mainly on the basis of geography. I am Irish - silver (formerly brown) hair, brown, slightly deep-set eyes, respectable sized ears, pale skin with freckles. I regularly pass for a local in the Netherlands, Belgium and France. No such chance in Spain or Italy; I stand out like a stray cucumber among those populations. Meaning what ? Nothing, except that I lack the local dark complexion. As for my "ancestry" - the first direct forbear of mine in the male line popped up in County Sligo in the 17th century. He was probably an English Cromwellian "adventurer", or a product of the early 17th century Plantation of Ulster. His family clearly intermarried extensively and went local (converting at some point to Roman Catholicism). My great grandfather married twice, and fathered about 23 children (not much to do in chilly, rainy North Mayo). His children, and their children, married in all directions. What is our "race" ? Who cares. For all I know, I could be descended from William the Conqueror, Charlemagne or King Solomon. We are all just human, trying to make the best of it. Modern genetics has, in any event, shown that the Nazis' eugenics-derived notion of racial purity is arrant nonsense. Not surprising - humans did not evolve to behave like controlled pedigree Charolais cattle. If we had, we would not have been what we are. Variety really is the spice of life.

    I am sorry, imi. I very much appreciate your contributions on this site (particularly in relation to matters Magyar). But you really have to tone it down on this recently-expressed obsession of yours. It may be based on a personal hurt. However, it is also irrational, and will be offensive to many In Here. Please think about this. With very best regards, JR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JR* View Post
    I am sorry, imi. I very much appreciate your contributions on this site (particularly in relation to matters Magyar). But you really have to tone it down on this recently-expressed obsession of yours. It may be based on a personal hurt. However, it is also irrational, and will be offensive to many In Here. Please think about this. With very best regards, JR.
    I'm sorry, I do not want to spoil the mood but it's true what I described is not fantasy or ideas, and yes It sad but based my personal hurt and experience with the peoples
    "The consciousness that I am alive, makes me wild dreams every day"
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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    I have heard this as well, Hitler had but a single descended Testicle, was thought by his mess mates in WWI to be homosexual, though according to the notes of his doctor late in his life,Hitler was infected with Syphilis in the days he spent in Vienna trying to become an Art student. He allegedly contracted the disease from a local Jewish Prostitute. In his writings he referred to Syphilis as a "low disease, a Jewish disease." Hitler was also thought to be a Coprophiliac, a fetish you'll need to look up as it's too disgusting to post here.
    As for his being Jewish in whole or in part, some genetic data from the Jewish Virtual Library Site may shed some light : "A chromosome called Haplogroup E1b1b1 which showed up in [the Hitler] samples is rare in Western Europe and is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews ... Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population." Again, this study, though scientific by nature, is inconclusive. "

    An additional bit of information shows this : " the question seems to stem from the remote possibility that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Hitler's father, Alois, was registered as an illegitimate child with no father when born in 1837 and to this day Hitler's paternal grandfather is unknown. Alois' mother, Maria Schicklgruber, is known to have worked in the home of a wealthy Jew, so there is some chance, however small, that a son in that household got Hitler's grandmother pregnant.

    In 1933, the London Daily Mirror published a picture of a gravestone in a Jewish cemetery in Bucharest inscribed with some Hebrew characters and the name Adolf Hitler but it is now known that this Bucharest Hitler could not have been the Nazi leaders grandfather. At the time, though, this picture sufficiently worried Hitler that he had the Nazi law defining Jewishness written to exclude Jesus Christ and himself."
    The accusations of Hitler being homosexual were mainly made by a German con-artist that was one of Hitler's comrades in the First World War, he was widely discredited and probably was not reliable. Some others in Hitler's inner circle thought he never had sex with Ava Braun, as his aides never noticed any soiled sheets and many in his inner circle seemed to love to speculate about this. Of course his associations with the Brown Shirts, whose ranks were filled with macho gay men like Ernst Röhm, were also used as circumstantial evidence for some to infer Hitler was homosexual. While Hitler almost certainly knew of the Brown Shirts being a clan of gays and their more insidious links to pederasty, he himself was probably a celibate, frigid heterosexual. Personally I think he feared human contact in general and was probably basically celibate for the later part of his public life and probably only really pursued women he could easily dominate. I do think Hitler had an affair with his cousin/niece(?) and that she ended up killing herself, and believe he cavorted with prostitutes as was the norm at the time. I've also heard the accusation of Hitler's bizarre sexual habits, and there are some allegations that he may have prostituted himself to men as a starving artist in Vienna, but there is little evidence of this.

    Ironically, the Nazis and Hitler got rid of a senior Heer commander whose name escapes me by inferring he was a homosexual, but I think historians have said this probably wasn't the case as he too was probably just celibate and unable to form relationships with women as he was socially awkward. The name escapes me though, but he probably wasn't too dissimilar to Adolf in that way. Hitler had sway over the masses, especially women, but was seemingly unable to form personal connections, perhaps even to that hen-brain Ava..

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    Quote Originally Posted by imi View Post
    I do not understand what the problem is, I have given are relevant answers showing that Hitler had no Jewish ancestry
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/w...ests-show.html

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    I do not argue with you because you and your friends threaten me all time
    One guess these DNA specialist in the end sad that Hitler was a Negro? hahaha that is a joke
    These only percent numbers not facts, and Hitler was not a Jew because he not have Jewish face and and either his sister of Paula was a tipical german white woman without any negros or jew face
    "The consciousness that I am alive, makes me wild dreams every day"
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    Arguments are not why you have found yourself in trouble here. The "threats" you've received are for violations of rules you already know to exist imi, you have been here more than long enough to have seen the others who were dealt with for the same sorts of violations, this is not news to you. We are not being bully's , we are the operational Staff of the Site doing our jobs, in the way that we are supposed to do them. Do not blame us for your inability to control your obsessive assertions concerning Jewish people. And to be honest, and a bit blunt, it may serve you to talk this over with a competent professional. they may well have help for you, so the anxieties do not plague you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tankgeezer View Post
    Arguments are not why you have found yourself in trouble here. The "threats" you've received are for violations of rules you already know to exist imi, you have been here more than long enough to have seen the others who were dealt with for the same sorts of violations, this is not news to you. We are not being bully's , we are the operational Staff of the Site doing our jobs, in the way that we are supposed to do them. Do not blame us for your inability to control your obsessive assertions concerning Jewish people. And to be honest, and a bit blunt, it may serve you to talk this over with a competent professional. they may well have help for you, so the anxieties do not plague you.
    You moderators want to deny the facts and the truth, and want to take away the right to freedom of expression
    The freedom of expression is a fundamental human right
    But look: I have many enemies from the Russia, I have many enemies from the Israel, why I don't have some new "friends" from the USA who want to deny the truth?
    Last edited by imi; 03-03-2016 at 10:41 PM.
    "The consciousness that I am alive, makes me wild dreams every day"
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    Facts and Truth are not our job as Moderators, or Admins. Making sure that the Site isn't disrupted by those who would for whatever reason refuse to go by the rules IS our job. So that you may have an opportunity to reflect on the events of the past few days, I'm giving you a short vacation. Hopefully, in that time, you will have figured it all out. See you in two days imi, God speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imi View Post
    You moderators want to deny the facts and the truth, and want to take away the right to freedom of expression
    The freedom of expression is a fundamental human right
    The "facts and the truth" has no deal to your biased posts, coz you definitelly , ignore the DNA research, trying to impose an false conclusion based on the invented "face-research-photo-method".What so funny in "african" galogrups of Hitler's DNA?All of the peoples , living on the planet have the african genes - in more or less quantities. Even me,tupical slavic, or you. This is coz the motheland of mankind is - africa. Nothing new endeed here, if to read, even sometimes, the some antropologies articles ( even in limits of Wiki) . You wrote a nonsence claiming the Hitler couldn't has the jewish genes , just becouse he doesn't look like the jews. Moreover the STalin is a jew coz he looks "jewish" You seems don't even guess how the real jews might ( or should) looks like. You probably never heard about sefards and ashkenazi jews. The sefards belong to semitic tribes- they looks like the "jews in Nazis posters" - semitic. The caucasian peoples , like osetins and georgians , among which the Stalin was born, had a close influence of islamic semits ( by the ottoman emire) - so much of caucasian looks semitic. That's why the STalin look semitic - not jewish The another group of jews , askenazi , according DNA tests, is originate from Southern Europe. Much of them look like you and me - black-hair aryan
    So please don't look like stopid- to claime that to write a nonsence is your "fundamental human right"
    But look: I have many enemies from the Russia, I have many enemies from the Israel, why I don't have some new "friends" from the USA who want to deny the truth?
    It's simple like that- becouse if one a moron- no one wish to be his friend SO use our advices - and you probabli will find a friends, at least among our forum members.

    "I decide who is a Jew and who is an Aryan "- Hermann Goering

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