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    U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers

    An American soldier says he released the photos to the Los Angeles Times to draw attention to the safety risk of a breakdown in leadership and discipline. The Army has started a criminal investigation.
    The paratroopers had their assignment: Check out reports that Afghan police had recovered the mangled remains of an insurgent suicide bomber. Try to get iris scans and fingerprints for identification.

    The 82nd Airborne Division soldiers arrived at the police station in Afghanistan's Zabol province in February 2010. They inspected the body parts. Then the mission turned macabre: The paratroopers posed for photos next to Afghan police, grinning while some held — and others squatted beside — the corpse's severed legs.

    A few months later, the same platoon was dispatched to investigate the remains of three insurgents who Afghan police said had accidentally blown themselves up. After obtaining a few fingerprints, they posed next to the remains, again grinning and mugging for photographs.

    Two soldiers posed holding a dead man's hand with the middle finger raised. A soldier leaned over the bearded corpse while clutching the man's hand. Someone placed an unofficial platoon patch reading "Zombie Hunter" next to other remains and took a picture.

    The Army launched a criminal investigation after the Los Angeles Times showed officials copies of the photos, which recently were given to the paper by a soldier from the division.

    "It is a violation of Army standards to pose with corpses for photographs outside of officially sanctioned purposes," said George Wright, an Army spokesman. "Such actions fall short of what we expect of our uniformed service members in deployed areas."

    Wright said that after the investigation, the Army would "take appropriate action" against those involved. Most of the soldiers in the photos have been identified, said Lt. Col. Margaret Kageleiry, an Army spokeswoman.

    The photos have emerged at a particularly sensitive moment for U.S.-Afghan relations. In January, a video appeared on the Internet showing four U.S. Marines urinating on Afghan corpses. In February, the inadvertent burning of copies of the Koran at a U.S. base triggered riots that left 30 dead and led to the deaths of six Americans. In March, a U.S. Army sergeant went on a nighttime shooting rampage in two Afghan villages, killing 17.

    The soldier who provided The Times with a series of 18 photos of soldiers posing with corpses did so on condition of anonymity. He served in Afghanistan with the 82nd Airborne's 4th Brigade Combat Team from Ft. Bragg, N.C. He said the photos point to a breakdown in leadership and discipline that he believed compromised the safety of the troops.

    He expressed the hope that publication would help ensure that alleged security shortcomings at two U.S. bases in Afghanistan in 2010 were not repeated. The brigade, under new command but with some of the same paratroopers who served in 2010, began another tour in Afghanistan in February.

    U.S. military officials asked The Times not to publish any of the pictures.

    Capt. John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, said the conduct depicted "most certainly does not represent the character and the professionalism of the great majority of our troops in Afghanistan.... Nevertheless, this imagery — more than two years old — now has the potential to indict them all in the minds of local Afghans, inciting violence and perhaps causing needless casualties."

    Kirby added, "We have taken the necessary precautions to protect our troops in the event of any backlash."

    Times Editor Davan Maharaj said, "After careful consideration, we decided that publishing a small but representative selection of the photos would fulfill our obligation to readers to report vigorously and impartially on all aspects of the American mission in Afghanistan, including the allegation that the images reflect a breakdown in unit discipline that was endangering U.S. troops."

    The photos were taken during a yearlong deployment of the 3,500-member brigade, which lost 35 men during that time, according to icasualties.org, a website that tracks casualties. At least 23 were killed by homemade bombs or suicide bombers.

    Suicide attacks on two bases of the brigade's 1st Battalion, 508th Parachute Infantry Regiment killed six U.S. soldiers and four Afghan interpreters. The platoon whose soldiers posed for the photos was part of the battalion.

    The soldier who provided the photos, and two other former members of the battalion, said in separate interviews that they and others had complained of inadequate security at the two bases.

    An Army investigation into a July 2010 suicide attack in Kandahar that killed four U.S. soldiers found that senior members of the battalion had complained about security. But it concluded that force protection measures were "reasonable and prudent" in the face of limited resources.
    By David Zucchino, Los Angeles Times
    April 18, 2012, 4:30 a.m.


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    Default Re: U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers

    Good thing they never saw the stuff shot over in the RVN those years ago. But then , its tougher to leak polaroids . Not something I would do personally, but to each their own.

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    Default Re: U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers

    I question the release date, solider who released them said he did it for safety and breakdown of leadership but if that was the case then shouldn't he have released these images almost two years ago and not so soon after the recent US-Afghan diplomatic issue.

    Another thing about all these images, videos and such is we're now in the digital age, a photo can be spread around the world in seconds making things look very bad (And maybe rightly so) but I've, if not all of us, have seen photos of soldiers posing with their dead enemies from many wars and in some cases worse then any modern photographer could stomach, I'm not condoning this but it's certainly nothing new.

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    downwithpeace - I agree. These images are horrible - but it is war. Countries who send out soldiers to fight on their behalf, with all the pressures that this involves, are collectively deluding themselves if they expect otherwise. Sad and awful - but this is a fact of war. Working under the pressures that bore on these young soldiers, one should not be surprised if their mindset developed in the direction suggested by these 'photos. That is saying no more than that they are human. Best regards, JR.

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    Well said JR.
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    Default Re: U.S. troops posed with body parts of Afghan bombers

    Quote Originally Posted by flamethrowerguy View Post

    Isn't war supposed to be...hell?!?
    This is no more a war but still a ... hell.The Blackwater's jorney in Bahdad.Seems for me, the so called "professional army" can morally degradate easy enough.However, i hope , american army wasn't such all the time in past.
    Last edited by Chevan; 04-21-2012 at 02:38 PM.

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