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    Gents, just wanted to wish you all a happy Easter whether you're God squad or not, try not to over indulge on those Easter eggs, and for all of you who sprechen Deutsch Ein frohes und sonniges Osterfest!

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    The Volunteer's book of facts 1863

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    Gents, just wanted to wish you all a happy Easter whether you're God squad or not, try not to over indulge on those Easter eggs, and for all of you who sprechen Deutsch Ein frohes und sonniges Osterfest!

    Regards,

    IY
    Iron Yeoman, i heartily reciprocate your kind wishes... You may add to your international dictionary the same wishes in Italian : Buona Pasqua a tutti voi!!
    (Happy Easter to all of you!!)

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    Down here, due to the shifting of Easter dates, we have ANZAC Day, our national day for commemoration of our people who served in wars, falling tomorrow on Easter Monday.

    Which unites two great traditions of giving one's life as a saviour, albeit without any indication that doing so will stop humans being vile to other humans.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9A4A...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gmgw...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuCno...eature=related

    Okay, so there's a degree of maudlin sentiment in some of those videos, but the fact remains that people who condemn soldiers for fighting wars which are determined by politicians rather than soldiers invariably get really fond of soldiers when soldiers are all that stand between them and the enemy.

    What does this have to do with Easter? Probably nothing, except that it was a Roman soldier who thrust a spear into Christ's chest on the cross to see if he was still alive. Which pretty much symbolises the unfortunate relationship between soldiers and their actions under the command of the greater powers which control military forces for all sorts of purposes beyond the knowledge or interest of the poor bastards who through the centuries have put their lives on the line for those who control them.
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    Pax Vobiscum


    "Although God cannot alter the past, Historians can"


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    Quote Originally Posted by 32Bravo View Post
    Pax Vobiscum
    The version I grew up with was 'dominus vobiscum'.

    The response is the same.

    'et cum spirito tuo'

    And may the spirit be with you all.
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    I thought I had already responed to this ???

    Anyway, as did I.

    However, I was offering the Roman greeting (as opposed to the Catholic greeting) i.e. 'Pax Roma', arguably less successful than 'Pax Britania' - just kidding!

    The resonse 'et cum spirito tutuo' I learned by rote and it was many years before I challenged the habit and gave thought to the meaning. 'The Lord is with you!'


    You might like this:

    "The answer "And also with you." is bad not becuase of the 1st two words, but because it is not a sentence. To make a sentence out of it requires additions and a deletion: "And May it also be with you." But that's even FURTHER from the latin...

    To the people: Dominus vobiscum ... (The Lord be with you)
    then, to the celebrant: ... et cum spirtu tua. (and with spirit yours).
    Again, a third party type dialog. "

    Pax Vobiscum - Peace be with you!
    Last edited by 32Bravo; 04-24-2011 at 01:17 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rising Sun* View Post
    The version I grew up with was 'dominus vobiscum'.
    The response is the same.
    'et cum spirito tuo'
    Amen

    I'm sorry if i seem disrespectful, but i couldn't resist...
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    No offence taken. Some of us non-Americans are less fanatical about our religion than others. Religion is, probably, more of a personal matter with us than it is with the Bible punchers, and what others might think is up to them - So be it!

    BWA - kill one and a thousand obliterate you!


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    32Bravo, you infidel!


    You need to get back to your religious roots and celebrate Ēastre by sacrificing something or someone to our Goddess of renewal and fertility!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32Bravo View Post
    No offence taken. Some of us non-Americans are less fanatical about our religion than others. Religion is, probably, more of a personal matter with us than it is with the Bible punchers, and what others might think is up to them - So be it!

    BWA - kill one and a thousand obliterate you!
    I grew up in a Country where the presence of the Religious Authority has always been more than oppressive and intrusive... I was born in 1957 and since i was a kid, i remember how the Vatican and the Pope methodically interfered and influenced the Political life of Italy, as well as the educational system... Just to give you an idea, consider that from post-war to the 80's, the first Italian Political Party (the one that ruled the Country for more than forty years) was the Democrazia Cristiana (Christian Democracy) and its symbol was a Shield with a Cross... Symbol that resulted in contradiction with the stretches of power and the corruption that characterised those years... The Religious Education has been compulsory until some years ago, to the point that Italy was probably one of the last European Country to benefit of important laws like the Right of Divorce or the Termination of Pregnancy... The main result of this kind of behaviour, was the loss of credibility, just because many people (like myself) realized that the same Religious Authorities that celebrates Christian Rites, were the same that tryed, day after day, to f*** you...
    My poor english doesn't allow me to explain in details many other reasons, but can probably show the kind of attitude, i have towards the Clerical World... I have great respect for whoever profess his Faith, 'cause i think, like you do, that Religion is a personal matter and an important part of the inner life of every human being' but i don't want to be part of any crime or injustice committed in the name of the Cross... That's it...

    Can you explain me what do you mean with the acronym BWA? Isn't an ironic question. I don'y really know what it means and when i don't understand, i ask... I'm sorry, but i'm just an old country boy...
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    BWA = British West-Indian Airways. Bit of a slip, meant to say BTW = By The Way.

    The history of the world is full of stories of relious oppression. It has nothing to do with God, it's just about men and power. No revelation there. For me, Catholicism fell apart with Vatican II.

    Please, spare me the ignorant, country boy act - you're obviously intelligent and articulate your opinions well.


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    I visited Glastonbury and Glastonbury Tor, last week. Full of fake Druids selling fake Ghia rubbish to the pagans. It was quite refreshing to visit the city of Wells after that and experience the quiet dignity of its cathedral.

    There is much ignorance regarding the monastries which were destroyed by Henry VIII, and the lack of knowledge regarding the good work they did for their communities. As we witness in the news everyday, the only good news is bad news. The mundane good is ignored.

    The Chrisitans referred to non-Christians as infidels, on the other hand infidels refer to Christians as infidels. Who are the infidels?

    I would suppose that the best offering to the Goddess of renewal and fertility would be semen?


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    Gosh chaps, all I wanted to do was wish you all a good easter and it seems to have sparked a theolgical debate!!
    "There is no country on the face of the earth to which the principle of citizen-soldiership is so well adapted as our own, for the freedom possessed by Britons is of so general and real a character as to cause the humblest in the land to feel deeply the neccessity of preserving the safety and independence of the nation of which he is a part"

    The Volunteer's book of facts 1863

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32Bravo View Post
    Please, spare me the ignorant, country boy act - you're obviously intelligent and articulate your opinions well.
    IT's quite obvious that we have different sense of humour... I don't think that a country boy can't be, at the same time, intelligent and able to articulate his own opinions. When i say "country boy", i mean someone frank and sincere with a simple mind, probably a little bit naive, the way i think i am.
    Thanx for your explanation, about BWA.
    I don't agree with your previous "correction" about the chinese proverb that i use like sign. BWA - we all have different minds and different opinions...
    Best regards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yeoman View Post
    Gosh chaps, all I wanted to do was wish you all a good easter and it seems to have sparked a theolgical debate!!
    Good things sometimes comes from simplicity and naturalness... Your wishes've been welcome anyway!!!
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