Re: Deists and scientist from war to peace
If history, from Galileo to the Scopes so-called 'Monkey trial' to the Iranian theocracy to current American fundamentists demanding that creationism be substituted for science in schools is anything to go by, it can't be accomplished because there are two cultures which are antithetical to each other.
Originally Posted by kowalskil
One is empirically based and the other is faith based.
While each has elements of the other, such as adherents of religions basing their beliefs on what is to them empirical evidence, such as the Bible, Old Testament, New Testament, Torah, Koran, etc and adherents of science basing their beliefs on the scientific thinking of the time, such as the pre germ theory efficacy of firing cannons to disperse the miasma causing disease, the difference is that science, despite many great battles against challenges to the contemporary orthodoxy, is capable of changes which contradict the previous orthodoxy.
For example, the Nobel Prize awarded to Marshall and Warren for indentifying the role of bacteria in gastric and peptic ulcers overcame the preceding orthodoxy and vindicated their research in the face of professional derision.
There is no comparable process in religions as they cannot adapt to new evidence which contradicts their faith systems, because faith systems are not evidence based. Anyone who challenges such faith systems is usually labelled a heretic and driven out of the faith or, when the faith has the powers of a state, dealt with as criminals.
The short answer is that science and religion are incompatible, because they don't share common values.
The longer answer is that the problem is not between scientists and religion, for many scientists are religiously observant and faithful and vice versa, but with the leadership of religions which insist upon adherence to their faiths rather than evidence based research and knowledge. Nothing will change until the leaderships change their attitudes.
Last edited by Rising Sun*; 08-07-2011 at 10:02 AM.
A rational army would run away.