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Thread: Which would have been more effective the PanzerVIIVK 7201 or the E-100?

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    Default Re: Which would have been more effective the PanzerVIIVK 7201 or the E-100?

    That throws up two more issues:
    1) Availability of engineering assets - not necessarily bridging vehicles, but also over-bridges and the like, plus tank transporters and recovery vehicles. Neither of these vehicles could use existing ones.
    2) Manufacturability - if these are a pain to make, you could have 10 smaller tanks or one of these - at which point why make it?
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    Default Re: Which would have been more effective the PanzerVIIVK 7201 or the E-100?

    Its almost analogous with the Battleship.

    Huge, imposing, massive firepower, technological achievement but ultimately extremely expensive to build and maintain. Requires escorts in the face of advancements such as air power and submarines to be able to survive, a huge logistical tail to follow it and keep it operational. Limited flexibility and employment, large target (the term shot magnet comes to mind).
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    An out-spoken, flinty-lipped, brazen-faced jade,
    With a habit of looking men straight in the eyes
    At Blenheim and Ramillies fops would confess
    They were pierced to the heart by the charms of Brown Bess.

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    Default Re: Which would have been more effective the PanzerVIIVK 7201 or the E-100?

    Both of them are waste of resources. Tiger I is already a problem for Germans: his huge dimensions are problematic for engine producers and suspension producers.
    Panzer VII and E-100 are so slow that they cannot able to keep in touch with medium tanks, are easy target for every weapon (and even with their super armor the are vulnerable to attacks from top) and use too much resources only for keeping them ready to combat. And even logistic is nightmare: is not a fact well-know, but from WWII the tanks are brought on combat by trains and trucks (tanks are slow and consume to much money if they move to war by their own): there is no way that a super-heavy tank can be moved by Germans with normal way. And forget to use them in city with sewage system: no sewage system can support their weight, and also bridges cannot sustain their weight.
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    Default Re: Which would have been more effective the PanzerVIIVK 7201 or the E-100?



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    Default Re: Which would have been more effective the PanzerVIIVK 7201 or the E-100?

    The best heavy tank was the KV1 at the start of the eastern front war.
    Unbreakable and quite mobile.

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    Default Re: Which would have been more effective the PanzerVIIVK 7201 or the E-100?

    Unbreakable?


    Bundesarchiv Bild 169-0441

    (I guess this was rather some kind of aiming practice.)
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    Default Re: Which would have been more effective the PanzerVIIVK 7201 or the E-100?

    Seems to have lots of non-penetrating shots though

    From 1942 on, the Germans had much more powerful weapons.
    From then on, every nation's heavy tanks suffered the same problems.
    The best heavy tanks were often those with a more medium profile.
    I would add the Panther to that, which is more heavy medium than light medium

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